A lot of people do that, and unsurprisingly some people (maybe all) working at YC do not appreciate it. Personally I would advise against it and think of a different way to get to the partners, n.b. Instacart, rather than show up to YC when everyone is extremely busy and putting YC staff in difficult positions.
No startup, I should think, would get funding by gatecrashing a VC in meetings about potential fundraising for other companies. It's just a stupid idea: you're slapping someone in the face by intruding like that.
Don't do that, but do consider going to Silicon Valley and talking with other startup founders, users, etc. and I'd recommend startup school in the spring, and applying to s2013.
Showing up uninvited during interview days will probably just get you escorted out, and won't help your chances to get in in the future -- you'd be "that crazy stalker guy from last year, should we call the cops?"
yeah but you can write the truth without being an ass. Actually bother to make the case that YC isn't the be all and end all. Just stating it (not that you even went that far) doesn't add anything so you're being downvoted for being noise, not because you're speaking the "truth" and being oh so brave to do it on news.yc
Switching to anger is a practical way of dealing with disappointment - it makes it easier to move forward and take action... Your comment may help some people get over being rejected and its not like YC is affected by how people they rejected handle things.
Btw, there are post-application morale-boosting celebrations happening all over the place. I'm hosting one this Saturday in the Bay Area. Hope you'll join us!
Lol no! Not "rejection" parties! Everyone is invited whether they're past, present, or future YC applicants, with or without having been accepted by YC. This is just a way for people to hang out and unwind and have fun, especially those who have gone through the application process.
Startups are hard. I hope you'll keep going in the face of adversity.
If so, Mixpanel is here to help. Forward a copy of your YC rejection email to free@mixpanel.com and we'll hook you up with our $150/month Startup plan, free forever.
It's cool what you're offering, but IMO being rejected by YC isn't "adversity." Folks need to stop pinning their hopes on a handout from others. How about everyone uses their spare time to build something cool, deploy it to a cheap Web server costing $30/m, see if people use it, actually /sell/ product and then go straight to the big dog investors?
I actually think what he's offering is incredibly awesome. Startups at this level NEED a product like Mixpanel and he's offering it for free.
Not all rejection is "adversity" per se, but a lot of people had a non-negligible amount of hope resting on their YC applications. At this stage in the game everything that isn't a giant step forward can feel like a kick in the face. Kudos to Mixpanel for understanding that.
Love what Mixpanel is doing, so we'd like to jump on the bandwagon. Offering our $59 Basic plan for free for life, and 50% off all other plans. Happy to keep startups secure :) Email your YC rejection letter to founders@tinfoilsecurity.com
My love for Mixpanel has now caused me a moral dilemma in which I briefly considered the ease with which I could forge an email and get free service.
Don't worry, the good angel won the battle, but uhhh, I hope you're doing something to verify email headers and all that jazz. If it had been the $350 plan, I don't know that I could have held out.
To anybody wondering whether or not you actually need this offer (and is legitimately eligible), jump on it now. I picked up an old Mixpanel plan on an AppSumo deal with no idea how to use it whatsoever, and it's now used integrally in a variety of projects.
Yeah, I got 1 question from PG, which really got my hopes up, because I wondered, "why would he ask this if he wasn't interested?" This was especially so since his question implied interest.
A real bummer. I wouldn't have been so heartbroken if it hadn't been for this message, which really got my expectations up. It's my own fault though.
I also had to deal with losing a co-founder during the application process, so I wonder if my perceived instability was a factor.
Trying to figure out why if it was a serious reason (instead of just having too many other qualified candidates), although I understand their personal reasons stance.
I applied as a solo founder, so I'm really not surprised.
In other news, I'm considering bringing on a technical cofounder that can take over with what I've built with my very minimal Ruby knowledge while I handle everything else. :)
Just got mine. Maybe next time! Gives a few more months to grow, gain users, build more features and change the world before YC interviews me. I got the email while arriving at a cafe to write more code to analyze Sandy, so the timing is apt I suppose. Teaser: http://i.imgur.com/c87tV.png
Thanks! :) Really, all a YC rejection email does is get the motivators going. Plus, life in Montreal is really, really awesome and it would be tough to leave, even for a few months in the Bay Area.
As others are saying, it's almost a relief. I can keep chugging away, enjoying my current life and continuing to build my startup in the evenings. Life ain't bad.
You could make huge fund money on hurricane preditions - it matters for commodity market. I know guys who made 300M because predicted Katrina. Approach this market!
I am always impressed and amazed at the effort, focus, and passion teams put into their YC application. The stories of joy, heartbreak, and relief exhibit a sheer love of technology & entrepreneurship.
In many situations, worthy teams are short changed. We'd like to change that :)
We (Exo IDE) are a startup focused on building solutions for software developers. We are looking to hire talent, and would like to chat with any YC applicants (accepted or not) about what we are doing. Our ideal situation would be to recruit a small, pre-existing team that contain designer + engineers that have worked together on projects. The work would be in SF.
Even if it's not a fit with us, we wish everyone success in the pursuit of their ambitions. At a minimum, we love hearing about your ideas and making any connections that may help you on your own path.
If you'd like a chat - you can reach me at my personal email @ tylerjewell@gmail.com.
A big part of startup life is getting Rejections. Let's move on and focus on more important things, products, customers, growth. Let's try again next time.
I actually think rejection is the key to getting better. I have been rejected before it's no big deal. YC is a big opportunity to progress, but it's not the only way to progress.
I got my rejection letter. My project is already built, and has 3000 users. I'm a solo developer, so thats probably why I was rejected. Also I'm 29 years old (started developing at 25). I'm the anti-YC demographic, so I wasn't really expecting to get accepted. The only think that kept me thinking I had a chance was the fact that the application process was actually pretty easy in my opinion. All the loggers out there talk like the application form is super hard, but I filled mine out in under a half hour. The questions are the kind of things you should be thinking about if you're doing things right. The hardest part for me was doing the video. The length came in at 0:56, because I was too nervous to say much other than the bare minimum.
Also, something else I want to say: The YC people really need to fix their application page. The day after I filled out my application, I came back to clean up the grammer, and when I went to click "save", it gave me the "expired link" error. All those grammer fixes down the drain. I never did go back and fix them. That may have also attributed to my rejection. In this day and age there is no excuse to screwing up basic crud :/
I can't help but point out, it's grammar not grammer. It's hard being a solo dev though, it's very possible though and it sounds like you're on a great track with 3k users :)
If you're genuinely considering closing the doors because you didn't get into YC, that's really good evidence that YC made a good choice in rejecting you.
Take it as a slap in the face if you want. Be pissed. Cry like a baby. Throw something at a wall. Those are all perfectly valid, but the best YC applicants are the ones that don't need YC at all, so if you want to better your chances for the next round, prove to them how stupid they were in passing you up.
Well, I got a reject as well. Last time a few years ago, I'd actually got a call for interview and personally, if I've to judge the two ideas on merit, the current one was way more superior than the one that got an interview call(eventually we didn't get funding but we were very very under-prepared back then).
My key takeaway is - there's no 'right or wrong' here, it's kind of random. It's got a lot to do with your luck.
So what YC says in their rejection letter is actually right, we can always cook up reasons, why one got rejecte. The only way to make sure (well not really, just making it highly probable) that you make it to YC is be extremely well prepared, but then you are probably beyond a point where you need to go to YC.
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Life goes on, folks, in spite of angel investors wanting every last ounce of your collective creative juices for almost no wage.
Btw, there are post-application morale-boosting celebrations happening all over the place. I'm hosting one this Saturday in the Bay Area. Hope you'll join us!
More info here and here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4787228 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4775943
Startups are hard. I hope you'll keep going in the face of adversity.
If so, Mixpanel is here to help. Forward a copy of your YC rejection email to free@mixpanel.com and we'll hook you up with our $150/month Startup plan, free forever.
Not all rejection is "adversity" per se, but a lot of people had a non-negligible amount of hope resting on their YC applications. At this stage in the game everything that isn't a giant step forward can feel like a kick in the face. Kudos to Mixpanel for understanding that.
Thanks for offering this! Doesn't feel as much like rejection any more ;)
Don't worry, the good angel won the battle, but uhhh, I hope you're doing something to verify email headers and all that jazz. If it had been the $350 plan, I don't know that I could have held out.
To anybody wondering whether or not you actually need this offer (and is legitimately eligible), jump on it now. I picked up an old Mixpanel plan on an AppSumo deal with no idea how to use it whatsoever, and it's now used integrally in a variety of projects.
I didn't put much effort into my app, thinking it unlikely that they'd accept me, but darn it, they did get my hopes up a bit :-)
Which one of you is the CEO? How did the founders meet? What's going to happen to (my previous company that laid me off) if we fund you?
A real bummer. I wouldn't have been so heartbroken if it hadn't been for this message, which really got my expectations up. It's my own fault though.
I also had to deal with losing a co-founder during the application process, so I wonder if my perceived instability was a factor. Trying to figure out why if it was a serious reason (instead of just having too many other qualified candidates), although I understand their personal reasons stance.
I applied as a solo founder, so I'm really not surprised.
In other news, I'm considering bringing on a technical cofounder that can take over with what I've built with my very minimal Ruby knowledge while I handle everything else. :)
As others are saying, it's almost a relief. I can keep chugging away, enjoying my current life and continuing to build my startup in the evenings. Life ain't bad.
I am always impressed and amazed at the effort, focus, and passion teams put into their YC application. The stories of joy, heartbreak, and relief exhibit a sheer love of technology & entrepreneurship.
In many situations, worthy teams are short changed. We'd like to change that :)
We (Exo IDE) are a startup focused on building solutions for software developers. We are looking to hire talent, and would like to chat with any YC applicants (accepted or not) about what we are doing. Our ideal situation would be to recruit a small, pre-existing team that contain designer + engineers that have worked together on projects. The work would be in SF.
Even if it's not a fit with us, we wish everyone success in the pursuit of their ambitions. At a minimum, we love hearing about your ideas and making any connections that may help you on your own path.
If you'd like a chat - you can reach me at my personal email @ tylerjewell@gmail.com.
Also, something else I want to say: The YC people really need to fix their application page. The day after I filled out my application, I came back to clean up the grammer, and when I went to click "save", it gave me the "expired link" error. All those grammer fixes down the drain. I never did go back and fix them. That may have also attributed to my rejection. In this day and age there is no excuse to screwing up basic crud :/
It took them one month to fill out theirs.
A bunch of us applicants are getting together in Mountain View on Saturday @ 6pm for a drink to share ideas/experiences in the startup path.
Email if you are local and want to join. EDIT: not 8pm, 6pm.
Take it as a slap in the face if you want. Be pissed. Cry like a baby. Throw something at a wall. Those are all perfectly valid, but the best YC applicants are the ones that don't need YC at all, so if you want to better your chances for the next round, prove to them how stupid they were in passing you up.
My key takeaway is - there's no 'right or wrong' here, it's kind of random. It's got a lot to do with your luck.
So what YC says in their rejection letter is actually right, we can always cook up reasons, why one got rejecte. The only way to make sure (well not really, just making it highly probable) that you make it to YC is be extremely well prepared, but then you are probably beyond a point where you need to go to YC.