Been testing these via their "pool" agent. It's fast, and the agent adheres to the ACP spec pretty well (better than codex, opencode etc.) so it's a good experience in Zed.
I've tried their "shimmer" site https://shimmer.poolside.ai (seems in the same vein of products as AI Studio/ Repl.it)
Either the harness or the models are very bad in it, I'd say they feels less capable than Gemma4-E2B in virtually any harness. The larger model would plan out some steps and never actually perform them even when prompted to several times. The smaller model actually got more done. My guess is it's the harness, since you've had a good experience. Haven't tried the pool cli yet.
Very cool to see more small open models being worked on!
One nit: I've seen on this homepage, and many others, this notion that the people behind the models are "working towards AGI".
I get that this is marketing speak, but transformers are not AGI, and they will never be AGI, so it'd be great if people stopped saying that as it sort of wears out the meaning of "working towards AGI".
Probably a testament to how good Qwen3.6 is considering Qwen3.6-35B-A3B is not only ahead of their similar weight class XS.2 but also their M.1 (close to 10x bigger at 225B-A23B).
Interestingly, Gemma 4 26B-A4B and Qwen3.6 27B (dense) have been left out of the comparison.
The smaller models are becoming very good and quantization techniques like importance weighting and TurboQuant on model weights let you run aggressively quantized version (IQ2, TQ3_4S) on consumer hardware with extremely acceptable perplexity and quality loss.
The fact theyre shipping the actual agent harness alongside the weights is the part that matters. Most labs dump the model and make you figure out the agent layer yourself. If its the same runtime they use for RL training, its actually been exercised in production rather than being some demo wrapper.
I'm not sure I understand why Poolside are training their own models at all - what's the perceived or real advantage of splitting up model training efforts into smaller companies and dividing up resources like this? Is it just to have a US-domiciled LLM lab?
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[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 42.3 ms ] threadEither the harness or the models are very bad in it, I'd say they feels less capable than Gemma4-E2B in virtually any harness. The larger model would plan out some steps and never actually perform them even when prompted to several times. The smaller model actually got more done. My guess is it's the harness, since you've had a good experience. Haven't tried the pool cli yet.
I like their honesty in benchmarks, looks like Qwen3.6 35B is outperforming their Laguna M.1 225B model
I usually score pretty well in colour perception tests but distinguishing between those two purples made me doubt myself.
One nit: I've seen on this homepage, and many others, this notion that the people behind the models are "working towards AGI".
I get that this is marketing speak, but transformers are not AGI, and they will never be AGI, so it'd be great if people stopped saying that as it sort of wears out the meaning of "working towards AGI".
https://web.archive.org/web/20170629103718/https://blog.sour...
Interestingly, Gemma 4 26B-A4B and Qwen3.6 27B (dense) have been left out of the comparison.
The smaller models are becoming very good and quantization techniques like importance weighting and TurboQuant on model weights let you run aggressively quantized version (IQ2, TQ3_4S) on consumer hardware with extremely acceptable perplexity and quality loss.
Very exciting times for local LLMs.