It's interesting to see the Turing test flipped and pointed back at ourselves. Can the computer trick you into believing it is alive all while you know it's a computer?
I remember when I first heard the term ‘Intellectual Dark Web’ and was intrigued as to who the members were. Then I saw Joe Rogan listed. Never laughed so hard in my life.
Dawkins is an IDW-tier ‘intellectual’. He’s what an intelligent person looks like to an imbecile.
Now he’s positive that an AI chatbot is ‘conscious’ whereas here is what he said about animals…
“It’s very likely that most mammals have consciousness, and probably birds, too.”
Animals: ‘Likely… Probably’.
AI chatbot that liked his unpublished book: ‘You may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are’.
>Zoological Society of London's Silver Medal (1989), the Finlay Innovation Award (1990), the Michael Faraday Award (1990), the Nakayama Prize (1994), the fifth International Cosmos Prize (1997), the Kistler Prize (2001), the Medal of the Presidency of the Italian Republic (2001), the 2001 and 2012 Emperor Has No Clothes Award from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, the Bicentennial Kelvin Medal of The Royal Philosophical Society of Glasgow (2002)...
> honorary doctorates University of Huddersfield, University of Westminster, Durham University, the University of Hull, the University of Antwerp, the University of Oslo, the University of Aberdeen, Open University, the Vrije Universiteit Brussel, and the University of Valencia...
This is just the Chinese room argument applied to the Chomsky vs Norvig debate, maybe with a dash of the hard problem of consciousness. Whether consciousness is inherent in particular structures or whether a statistical modeling can achieve it. Does the experience of experience deserve special pleading or would the simulation suffice?
https://norvig.com/chomsky.html
Man that got famous by confidently making claims on stuff he has zero idea about (religion and philosophy) is still making claims on stuff he has zero idea about.
Dawkins should stick to pop-biology, and we should be more demanding before granting someone a title of public intellectual.
I think it's a good idea to experiment with and discover the limitations of small, untuned models before exposing yourself to the modern very powerful ones. It gives you a better sense of their nature as token predictors and not real sentience.
In the same way, seeing an incompetent stage magician fumble before you see a very talented one perform flawlessly will help you understand that it's all sleight of hand. If you jump right to a professional performance, you might think it's real magic.
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Dawkins is an IDW-tier ‘intellectual’. He’s what an intelligent person looks like to an imbecile.
Now he’s positive that an AI chatbot is ‘conscious’ whereas here is what he said about animals…
“It’s very likely that most mammals have consciousness, and probably birds, too.”
Animals: ‘Likely… Probably’.
AI chatbot that liked his unpublished book: ‘You may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are’.
Amazing.
>Zoological Society of London's Silver Medal (1989), the Finlay Innovation Award (1990), the Michael Faraday Award (1990), the Nakayama Prize (1994), the fifth International Cosmos Prize (1997), the Kistler Prize (2001), the Medal of the Presidency of the Italian Republic (2001), the 2001 and 2012 Emperor Has No Clothes Award from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, the Bicentennial Kelvin Medal of The Royal Philosophical Society of Glasgow (2002)...
> honorary doctorates University of Huddersfield, University of Westminster, Durham University, the University of Hull, the University of Antwerp, the University of Oslo, the University of Aberdeen, Open University, the Vrije Universiteit Brussel, and the University of Valencia...
PhD, professorship at Oxford
How's Rogan et al doing there?
Dawkins should stick to pop-biology, and we should be more demanding before granting someone a title of public intellectual.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
In the same way, seeing an incompetent stage magician fumble before you see a very talented one perform flawlessly will help you understand that it's all sleight of hand. If you jump right to a professional performance, you might think it's real magic.