Shows nothing about AI, shows a lot about how low the bar has fallen for not taking everything you see on social media at face value.
Enticing an easy and predictable knee jerk reaction from a couple dozen users also hardly proves anything.
AI art enjoyers and missing the point of art: name a better duo.
No one has ever claimed AI cannot imitate a Monet, but however good the imitation, it still isn't art any more than a Xerox of a painting is art. This is the exact reason why most people feel bad after discovering that what they felt was work of human ingenuity, is just a fake, a simulacrum of it. The creation of art, arguably the most human of instincts, cannot be separated from the emotions and effort that went into it.
All this proves is that most people cannot tell if that picture is a Monet or not.
It’s not a physical painting made by a well known artist.
It’s trying to hard to be a late Monet.
How much of our opinions are driven by context, rather than the actual subject? If Monet’s work is not so great without the context, is it still great? Or is context a critical piece of the art itself? Do we need to view a Monet piece within the scope of other Monet pieces, other artists, time periods, blindness, etc?
This is like asking people to rate this plate of bugs while serving them chicken. Even if tastes great, of course some people who will have a visceral reaction against it.
Another sign that the context and the human factor will always play a huge role in how we experience art. For example, AI generated music can sound perfect, but still we value it less if we don't know anything about the musician's life.
It's important to remember that there are many Monet paintings that critics don't like, or that aren't 'monet enough'. He painted fast to sell and make money and many think some paintings aren't as finished as they could be. He himself destroyed a number of water lily paintings before an exhibition [1], and again a lot of the work he did when he was partly blind due to cataracts.
Let this be an example of when you present your own work in real life. Context and framing is everything and does influence its interpretation and how people perceive your work. This has material effects on your life despite nothing objectively changing about the quality of your work.
Interesting how much the post sounds like an AI prompt itself. Are we all going to start talking like that? Think hard, make a plan, and only reply after deep consideration.
I did a similar test back around 2007 on a famous photography website and shared real Edward Weston photographs of landscapes/buildings and people critiqued it quite negatively. This proved to me that popularity, context, and foreknowledge wins when it comes to art.
the story goes, when the first Edison wax cylinder recording came out, they were indistinguishable from a live performance. these days we can hear the noise, crackles, and lack of dynamic range.
People confabulate. The setup further invites it. We mindlessly fill voids and call it opinion, and occassionally even believe ourselves. "Plausibility" is a really low bar. Rigor is tiring and we'd rather not invest as no one demands it, anyway.
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 45.6 ms ] threadNo one has ever claimed AI cannot imitate a Monet, but however good the imitation, it still isn't art any more than a Xerox of a painting is art. This is the exact reason why most people feel bad after discovering that what they felt was work of human ingenuity, is just a fake, a simulacrum of it. The creation of art, arguably the most human of instincts, cannot be separated from the emotions and effort that went into it.
All this proves is that most people cannot tell if that picture is a Monet or not.
It’s not a physical painting made by a well known artist.
It’s trying to hard to be a late Monet.
How much of our opinions are driven by context, rather than the actual subject? If Monet’s work is not so great without the context, is it still great? Or is context a critical piece of the art itself? Do we need to view a Monet piece within the scope of other Monet pieces, other artists, time periods, blindness, etc?
That’s just the art scene already ridiculed in the movie Interstate 60 with James Marsden and Gary Oldman and from 2002
https://youtu.be/HHwI37hkWfM?si=iFsWo3M5oSjLgE2F
2: some of the (albeit mislead) answers basically say "it's nice but it's not something a person willingly outlined and drew" and they are not wrong
3: some answers complain on the lack of depth and detail, color blurbs, and we have to agree the tested version is of very low resolution
so in the end we are left with: "some people who were told it was AI knee-jerked negatively" and i can't even start to see what's surprising about it
[1] https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28...
dang it would to use the flags as a way to prune recent HN users.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/003/240/678/2b9...