Absolutely! We need new and better benchmarks like this.
I have a question: why not use the maximum available reasoning on each LLM? For example, I see that Opus 4.7 at `max` reasoning but Sonnet 4.6 at `high`. Wouldn't it be a fairer comparison if all were at max?
This benchmark matches my experience with GPT (I occasionally go back to Claude when I run into limits and frequently run into forgotten requirements and reward hacking)
I do have two questions / critiques:
- The verifier doesn't seem to check for code quality / maintainability, which I would posit is one of the major qualms with SOTA coding models i.e. they lack code 'taste'. Ofc this is a difficult problem to solve at scale, but wanted to point that out nonetheless
- This almost feels written like a critique on SWE Bench Pro. Hopefully they fix the issues with that benchmark!
While this benchmark has interesting results, the "Contamination free" label only works for the initial release of the benchmark. It still has the same fundamental design issues of any other benchmark-- there's a single correct answer for tasks. It looks to be largely saturated upon release.
What they did well: normalizing the harness to mini-swe-agent -- models should be able to generalize to different tools at this point. When they struggle to do that (like most Google models), they're unlikely to be useful in practice. And that kind of generalization is an inherent part of intelligence.
For a benchmark that scales, you need to remove the ceiling and provide environments with measurable goals that are NOT a single correct answer, and sufficiently complex evaluation criteria to scale well beyond the current frontier.
We're still relatively unknown in the benchmarking space, but by rotating the pool of environments and ensuring the optimal strategies in the environments themselves are affected by other agents participating in the space, we expect we'll be able to resist contamination as major labs start investing more effort to climb the leaderboard. We've already seen Chinese labs taking an interest.
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[ 2.5 ms ] story [ 37.1 ms ] threadI have a question: why not use the maximum available reasoning on each LLM? For example, I see that Opus 4.7 at `max` reasoning but Sonnet 4.6 at `high`. Wouldn't it be a fairer comparison if all were at max?
I do have two questions / critiques:
- The verifier doesn't seem to check for code quality / maintainability, which I would posit is one of the major qualms with SOTA coding models i.e. they lack code 'taste'. Ofc this is a difficult problem to solve at scale, but wanted to point that out nonetheless
- This almost feels written like a critique on SWE Bench Pro. Hopefully they fix the issues with that benchmark!
What they did well: normalizing the harness to mini-swe-agent -- models should be able to generalize to different tools at this point. When they struggle to do that (like most Google models), they're unlikely to be useful in practice. And that kind of generalization is an inherent part of intelligence.
For a benchmark that scales, you need to remove the ceiling and provide environments with measurable goals that are NOT a single correct answer, and sufficiently complex evaluation criteria to scale well beyond the current frontier.
We do this by running multi-agent simulations with large action spaces at https://gertlabs.com/rankings.
We're still relatively unknown in the benchmarking space, but by rotating the pool of environments and ensuring the optimal strategies in the environments themselves are affected by other agents participating in the space, we expect we'll be able to resist contamination as major labs start investing more effort to climb the leaderboard. We've already seen Chinese labs taking an interest.