Nice to see some pushback in the most egregious abuses of privacy. I wonder why we are getting this with Flock but not seeing the same with private security cameras such as Ring, pervasive tracking of mobile devices by carriers and apps, and internet browser tracking. Is it just that there's a direct personal benefit with those devices, and people view the trade-off as being worth it?
Bugs me no end that my latest upstairs neighbor (I've been here for 15 years) has a ring on their door which means I have to be in front of it every time I go in & out my own door.
It doesn't matter how thoughtful you are, someone else will be thoughtless for you.
Ring did get some pushback when they advertised the "pet finding" feature that folks realized meant would allow anybody to be found.
But overall, being tracked by your _own_ device feels different than being tracked by somebody else's device. Especially when taxpayer dollars are being used for that other device.
It's not just inputs/sensors but also outputs. It seems like every public space is abused with bright obnoxious digital billboards now the cost is cheaper and cheaper.
this is great. I mean I'm all for the argument in the abstract. my commute is 2.5 miles one way, and I get tagged 20 times in each direction. that kind of brings it home.
How is this data storage even legal? I mean having cameras out that will sound an alarm if one of N specific wanted cars pass by is one thing. But do these cars just store stuff for later use and abuse? Who approved that?
Nice work all. But am quite unhappy with their new map. Doesn’t work with my hardened machine with webgl off or my old phone. For some obscure reason, the button to try the “legacy” map (from last month) does not come up most of the time. So several times recently the site has been inaccessible to me.
The 100k figure is an overestimate by a few percent. The OpenStreetMap data for ALPRs is pretty good, but there is some duplication.
I (recently) programmatically identified ~2.5k such instances.
https://pickpj.github.io/Mapping/FIock/similar.html
It has openstreetmap links attached for those who want to help fix the data.
You mean those trailers with the blue flahsy lights on them? Those are LiveView cameras. I don't think Flock is trying to advertise where all their cameras are, hence the reason for the map.
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[ 1.0 ms ] story [ 58.0 ms ] threadIt doesn't matter how thoughtful you are, someone else will be thoughtless for you.
But overall, being tracked by your _own_ device feels different than being tracked by somebody else's device. Especially when taxpayer dollars are being used for that other device.
- good publicity (drivers know that speed cameras exist)
- density (high chance of passing a speed camera)
- enforcement of penalties (if fines can be ignored then they lose their deterrent effect)
- portable (so you don't know where they are ahead of time)
Put energy into legislation. Ring and Nest already do the same thing.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/ring-reveals-they-give...
Home Depot from now on.