vagrant is a tool for automatically setting up ("provisioning") new vms, according to scripts.
For instance, once you have scripts that download and compile apache, php, python, and perhaps mysql and postgres, you can automatically create a new virtual machine with any combination of those things at any time. Even your applications can be automatically installed in a fresh development environment with a single command. It's great for allowing new developers to get going in their own environment on a team project, and good for you individually, if you have a lot of different things on the go, you can keep them isolated in their own environments and easily setup and destroy them at any time.
The value is adds is great, although it also adds a bit of inconvenience. If your OS likes to update virtualbox a lot, vagrant might suddenly stop working until they update it. Developing the scripts to provision a vm can take quite a bit of time. If you're doing lengthy compiles in the process and those compiles are failing, it can be slow to find out why. Once you get a module down, and it's solid, it's very nice to have.
The place it shines is setting up a complex dev environment and snapshotting that. Then share the snapshot to other developers. They then do something like "vagrant init complex-env", "vagrant up", "vagrant ssh" and they are working in the environment without worrying about Postgres or Apache or Java or anything like that when they just need to work on CSS and HTML.
That's what I love about it. It is a very classic logo. It evokes for me the idea that it was designed for a high tech company in a sci-fi film. Like Cyberdyne Systems or TYRELL Corp.
I was instantly reminded of the OCP - Omni Consumer Products - logo from Robocop, and yes, I also like the slightly retro-future feel.
As much as it's entirely irrelevant to Vagrant-as-a-tool itself, I'd love to see a whole 'brand identity' in the same theme. It's a small thing, but it makes me slightly happier when the tools I use have a little bit of character to them. (See also: Github & Octocats)
Cool. I was considering using Vagrant for my current project at work, but our production VM infrastructure is on vSphere. Fortunately, we don't need to spin up new servers very often, so I just wrote a shell script to set everything up. It would be nice to use something a bit more battle-tested.
The "this changes everything" thing has become way, way, overplayed. I saw that and immediately rolled my eyes and stopped reading. It is about at the level of "code ninja" now.
But, and take this as a compliment, Vagrant does change everything. I'm so happy with vagrant now I can really say I have the same OS as my server in my laptop, I can easily switch between them and distribute the env between my peers.
This isn't just a problem of a tech curve or conservatism but one of exposure and marketing. There are a lot of great tools and systems out there that are pretty in your face and obvious to use in certain niches yet.. you'll still run across good folks who are new to them. Always plenty of room to expand! (And that's a good thing ;-))
Congratulations Mitchell! I have always admired your work and it is inspiring to see an such an evolution in your project. Kudos to whoever designed the site, it looks amazing!
Maybe this is a stupid question, but how do you pronounce HashiCorp? Is it "HAA-she" (rhymes with Kashi, like the cereal) or is it "HASH-i" (rhymes with "flashy")? I'm guessing it's the former since it'd match the Japanese pronunciation of your last name...?
Heh I probably should've gone with squashy or washy, but whenever I try to pick a rhyming word, I take the suffix syllable and prepend every letter in the alphabet until I come up with a word (aashi, bashi, cashi...). Kashi won... :\",
The "ha" sound is like in hash, but it's a distinct syllable on it's own, without the "sh". The second syllable is more like "she". The "ha" and "shi" have the same weight, so the whole word is 2 syllables and 2 morae, unlike either of the two examples you gave (which are 3 morae each.)
It usually means "bridge" (橋) in the name Hashimoto, but can also mean "chopsticks" (箸) or "edge" (端), with a slightly different pitch (largely indistinguishable for non-speakers)
First of all: congrats! I have been using Vagrant for a while now and it's how we manage the development and test environments (+200) in the company I work at (tuenti.com).
It is still not clear to me what the business model will be: will you be charging for selling extra providers (like VMWare Fusion), support contracts or ...?
The project won't be renamed, but it will be rebranded in the next few weeks. In the three years the project has existed I have only gotten two or three complaints about the mascot, but everyone has agreed that "Vagrant" itself is fine. Note that I've talked up to some pretty high levels of US government using Vagrant, and most are okay with it. One [fairly large/visible] organization within the US government has said they can't use it until the mascot is changed.
If you frequently use VMs I suggest you checkout the example on their front page - it's super fast and I've found Vagrant to make a HUGE impact on my productivity and ability to use VMs for their intended purpose.
Use a backpacker for the mascot. It matches what the product does better. Homeless people dont have much stuff. Backpackers have and take their stuff everywhere. Which is the spirit of what you are doing. Have your stuff avaiable everywhere. So, a backpacker.
I'm having trouble understanding your recommendation. Vagrants take ALL of their belongings with them, they have little where else to store any items they. Backpackers couldn't possibly take everything they own with them or they would by definition be Vagrants.
I think having a Vagrant as the mascot for Vagrant is the only obvious option.
Ok, my point is that both take their belogings with them. Backpackers take the stuff they need to travel around. Same as Vagrants, as you mentioned. But, to the market, having a Vagrant as a mascot might be seen in bad taste. Thus, to reduce the chance of rain over his parade, he could potentially just change mascots. That way, people who get easily offended by anything won't have an excuse to say anything. Plus, when this product gets more and more traction, people will question the mascot choice. That's why Frostred Flakes has Tony the Tiger, and not Bad Luck Johnny that lives under a bridge. Its all about perception. Though this is an issue some hacker don't get, because to them the world is black and white. Not saying it is you, of course. Just talking out loud.
Also, why the only obvious option?
Why couldn't it be a Puppy, Cat, Horse, Printer, Cloud, Keyboard, Fish, or anything else? Why the Vagrant? Its not obvious. For all the client know Vagrant might be an acronym or some made up tech name.
@mitchellh
Congratulations first!
As I've been reading your tweets I've been guessing that you would starting, which focuses you on Vagrant.
I have a few questions:
When did you think about the first time and when did you really decide to do this step?
How do you start? Bootstrap it by your own or try to go with for a VC?
How are you planning the addon open source/paid addon ratio will be like?
I wish you all the best for your company.
And because I've been using Vagrant every day: Thank you very much.
> When did you think about the first time and when did you really decide to do this step?
The inkling of a possibility of something like this only entered my head around March/April 2012. I committed to the idea in June 2012.
> How do you start? Bootstrap it by your own or try to go with for a VC?
I'm attempting to bootstrap it on my own for now, because I think I have a solid foundation so there is a clear line to revenue. Of course, my runway to do this is much shorter than if I had VC funding. On the other hand, I have a lot more freedom without VC funding.
> How are you planning the addon open source/paid addon ratio will be like?
There will be many more open source add-ons, and I think it should be this way.
Fair enough. It's maybe not such a problem in the U.S. where the logo isn't in the media much, but to me the blue hexagon immediately triggered recognition. I'm only passing on the info.
Any plans for helping unit test vm creation? One of the biggest problems I've had is trying to verify that my Chef installation works after each change
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For instance, once you have scripts that download and compile apache, php, python, and perhaps mysql and postgres, you can automatically create a new virtual machine with any combination of those things at any time. Even your applications can be automatically installed in a fresh development environment with a single command. It's great for allowing new developers to get going in their own environment on a team project, and good for you individually, if you have a lot of different things on the go, you can keep them isolated in their own environments and easily setup and destroy them at any time.
The value is adds is great, although it also adds a bit of inconvenience. If your OS likes to update virtualbox a lot, vagrant might suddenly stop working until they update it. Developing the scripts to provision a vm can take quite a bit of time. If you're doing lengthy compiles in the process and those compiles are failing, it can be slow to find out why. Once you get a module down, and it's solid, it's very nice to have.
I suppose my only question is if you plan on redesigning the Vagrant Docs website to be more like your attractive company landing page.
As much as it's entirely irrelevant to Vagrant-as-a-tool itself, I'd love to see a whole 'brand identity' in the same theme. It's a small thing, but it makes me slightly happier when the tools I use have a little bit of character to them. (See also: Github & Octocats)
A bit of constructive criticism:
The "this changes everything" thing has become way, way, overplayed. I saw that and immediately rolled my eyes and stopped reading. It is about at the level of "code ninja" now.
"You can have the same environment shared by everyone, and still look like Dev/QA/Production?" they ask.
It's amazing how far behind some companies are on the tech curve.
It usually means "bridge" (橋) in the name Hashimoto, but can also mean "chopsticks" (箸) or "edge" (端), with a slightly different pitch (largely indistinguishable for non-speakers)
It is still not clear to me what the business model will be: will you be charging for selling extra providers (like VMWare Fusion), support contracts or ...?
Vince the Vagrant is being retired.
Virtualbox has been the main provider it manages. Part of this announcement includes adding support for more providers!
Also, the website looks absolutely gorgeous. Fantastic work there.
I think having a Vagrant as the mascot for Vagrant is the only obvious option.
Also, why the only obvious option?
Why couldn't it be a Puppy, Cat, Horse, Printer, Cloud, Keyboard, Fish, or anything else? Why the Vagrant? Its not obvious. For all the client know Vagrant might be an acronym or some made up tech name.
I have a few questions: When did you think about the first time and when did you really decide to do this step? How do you start? Bootstrap it by your own or try to go with for a VC? How are you planning the addon open source/paid addon ratio will be like?
I wish you all the best for your company. And because I've been using Vagrant every day: Thank you very much.
The inkling of a possibility of something like this only entered my head around March/April 2012. I committed to the idea in June 2012.
> How do you start? Bootstrap it by your own or try to go with for a VC?
I'm attempting to bootstrap it on my own for now, because I think I have a solid foundation so there is a clear line to revenue. Of course, my runway to do this is much shorter than if I had VC funding. On the other hand, I have a lot more freedom without VC funding.
> How are you planning the addon open source/paid addon ratio will be like?
There will be many more open source add-ons, and I think it should be this way.
Thank YOU for using Vagrant. :)
Surely you can't trademark a cube?
https://github.com/jedi4ever/mccloud/
http://jedi.be/blog/2011/09/13/libvirt-fog-provider/