Tufts University asked an academic what the financial results were for the UK:
"The British GDP has been reduced by 6–8%, business investment has been reduced by 12%, and trade volume has been reduced by 15%, compared to what it could have been if the U.K. had remained in the EU."
None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media.
Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked:
Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land?
Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived there for thousands of years and their homogeneous identity?
Why is it okay for one but not the other? Where does this double standard come from ?
The fact is the loudest voice in the room so far has never been representative of the answer to the above questions.
> Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land?
Thousands of years? Are you talking about celts?
Because Romans later arrived in Britannia and founded Londinium. Is it British when it was founded by those pesky Romans?
Or are you complaining about later populations, such as Vikings or Normans? I mean, they haven't been to the British isles for thousands of years. How can Britain be British with those smelly frenchmen?
Unless what you really are trying to do is complain that Britain now has too many brown people.
> Why is it okay for one but not the other? Where does this double standard come from ?
Because in Japan AIUI they haven't been infiltrated by people pushing narratives that being eg White British is inherently racist, that to not open your borders to one and all is racism and xenophobia (you can see lots of examples of such people in the post about the Swiss referendum on the 10M population limit), which they do in order to gain for them and their communities.
The existing minority populations know they can abuse our good nature, our placidity, our leftist politicians, and even the English language in order to gain, and to position themselves as continuous victims. Some feminists do the same. The idea that the whole of the UK is full of angry white supremacist racists is the kind of propaganda I allude to (it's funny how many US folk here fall for it).
(I am British, lived here all my life, live in a county with many areas of significant minority populations, and just old enough to have observed plenty of change in England)
Excuse me, are you holding up the British as some kind of pure, undisturbed ethnicity?
You mean the celts who were conquered by Romans who were conquered be Angles who were conquered by Normans? Who speak this bastard language we're using now, where most vocabulary is Latinate upon bones of Germanic?
At the time "polls" predicted a Remain win. Between the vote and the eventual Brexit along with protests, there was a government petition for a redo and a Remain optimism that a re-do would flip the result. For this poll to me meaningful, I would expect to see declining support for Reform. But the opposite is happening.
Also today: UK cutting infrastructure investments into healthcare and education by £5bn to fund defence [1].
I'm all up for defence spending in Europe, but if you had anything to do with British state education or healthcare, you know what a desperate move this is.
It's been quite meh economically - we'd be wealthier if we'd remained. Also immigration went up which is not what a lot of Brexiters were hoping.
I think a lot of the Brexit vote was just people being fed up and voting for something different. In my experience few Brexit voters are happy with what arrived.
Most of the people that want to rejoin the EU never realised that Brexit happened at the same time as COVID and they believe that all the bad things that happened since were due to Brexit and Brexit only. All the while ignoring that most EU countries are not that much better off. Just look at the GDP growth.
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https://now.tufts.edu/2026/06/08/10-years-after-brexit-vote-...
Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked:
Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land?
Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived there for thousands of years and their homogeneous identity?
Why is it okay for one but not the other? Where does this double standard come from ?
The fact is the loudest voice in the room so far has never been representative of the answer to the above questions.
Thousands of years? Are you talking about celts?
Because Romans later arrived in Britannia and founded Londinium. Is it British when it was founded by those pesky Romans?
Or are you complaining about later populations, such as Vikings or Normans? I mean, they haven't been to the British isles for thousands of years. How can Britain be British with those smelly frenchmen?
Unless what you really are trying to do is complain that Britain now has too many brown people.
Because in Japan AIUI they haven't been infiltrated by people pushing narratives that being eg White British is inherently racist, that to not open your borders to one and all is racism and xenophobia (you can see lots of examples of such people in the post about the Swiss referendum on the 10M population limit), which they do in order to gain for them and their communities.
The existing minority populations know they can abuse our good nature, our placidity, our leftist politicians, and even the English language in order to gain, and to position themselves as continuous victims. Some feminists do the same. The idea that the whole of the UK is full of angry white supremacist racists is the kind of propaganda I allude to (it's funny how many US folk here fall for it).
(I am British, lived here all my life, live in a county with many areas of significant minority populations, and just old enough to have observed plenty of change in England)
You mean the celts who were conquered by Romans who were conquered be Angles who were conquered by Normans? Who speak this bastard language we're using now, where most vocabulary is Latinate upon bones of Germanic?
- UK would rejoin EU,
- and then, later on, Reform would reach power and undermine EU just like Orban did.
So maybe it would be better to refuse UK its reentry into EU...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revoke-artic...
Sadly this now cuts the other way and the EU is highly unlikely to enter into anything with us without serious guarantees.
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2024/07/02/broken-bri...
I'm all up for defence spending in Europe, but if you had anything to do with British state education or healthcare, you know what a desperate move this is.
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-07/uk-plans-...
The UK is doing fine, especially relative to other EU countries. None of the things the anti-Brexit side claimed would happen have happened.
I think a lot of the Brexit vote was just people being fed up and voting for something different. In my experience few Brexit voters are happy with what arrived.