Show HN: Veterinarian turned founder, AI lawn diagnosis (grassdx.com)

78 points by andrewbr ↗ HN
I know, it's kind of weird. What is a veterinarian doing creating an analysis tool for lawn problems?

Frankly, the idea was born of my own lawn care struggles. Endless lawn care company fees without any actual improvement. Googling problems and finding generic solutions without regional considerations. One time I overseeded my grass not realizing I had to actually put soil down too.

One day, I decided to run lawn pictures through AI and found some pretty helpful information. So I decided with my clinical background (the idea of treating the cause, not just the symptoms), as well as tech savvy, I would create an AI tool where homeowners can upload pictures of their lawn, enter their ZIP code, and get a diagnosis tailored to their location with actionable next steps in just 15 seconds.

Completely free. The platform is monetized with affiliate sales (if a user elects to purchase through one of our Amazon or other links) and by selling exclusive rights to individual ZIP codes to lawn care companies seeking warm leads. Users can pursue their own DIY plan, purchase a lawn care subscription service, or contact a local lawn care system.

I'd love if you'd test it out, toy with it, try to break it, and give me your feedback. Any feature requests would be super helpful.

Thanks! Excited to hear your thoughts.

Andrew

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> Your lawn is trying to tell you something.

It's saying "I'm an unnatural, non-native monoculture that does little to support biodiversity but will gladly suck up your time and money."

Sorry to speak negatively of the thing you're working on Andrew, but the subject matter is one I feel strongly about. Having a short cut lawn area has many recreational uses, but most people don't do anything except maintain most of their lawn. On top of that, many people become focused on a particular aesthetic that usually requires non-native grasses and harmful pesticides. In some places, scarse water supplies are used just to maintain a certain color.

I encourage everyone to look into replacing grass lawns with native plant landscapes, and where you do want it short cut, look into a mix of plants like clover that require far less work to keep alive than most grass monocultures.

A nice idea and good luck! My lawn is dead as our local data center took all the water (I'm kidding!).

We do home property and inventory services using AI on photos as well and the key thing we've found so far is that the biggest rival to those features is just people dragging photos into chatgpt and asking away. So the key here is differentiating from that and making something better and more accurate. What we did was to basically build a better and deeper prompt and history, e.g. context is king in a vertical. So that means the other info the user has put about the property, the memory of previous things asked or seen, combining with publicly available property info we already gather - this would make the information more valuable than straight gpt usage.

So what more can you bring to the bare prompt on the photos to help? What can you build in terms of info about the zip, so you do more 'vertical stuff' before the api call.

Great idea, and really good job on the website. Can't use it myself as I'm not in America but I'm sure it's great.

Please ignore most of the people on hacker ews, most of them are losers who complain about everything.

Any chance you will support Canada?
Besides lead gen, how about having ready to go packages for the diy people? You can probably have it drop shipped by other online providers. Lead gen is fine and all but I already get postered by a ton of lawn care sales people who basically provide the same service.
What are you actually providing here? What makes this more useful for someone than just uploading a their lawn images directly to their favorite frontier chatbot?

Did you craft a rich prompt template that's untuitively helpful? If so, what did you see go wrong before you had that figured out? How did you determine it was a positive improvement? How will you make sure that your prompt's benefits hold up as your original model is retired and it needs to be run against whatever new model you're left to use instead?

Or is it just that your website acts like a kind of inspiration a la "Hey, did you ever think to ask AI about your lawn problems?"? If so, how do expect people to find this inspiration when link-delivering search is being agressively retired in favor of synthesized chatbot responses already?

I don't have a lawn, but I could use some more software around native habitat restoration for Green Seattle work parties. I end up using Claude or ChatGPT for plant identification because iNaturalist isn't as good, then getting the background on each plant - native? non-native? invasive?

When I'm planting, site selection is important but I'm really slow at it, even when using AI.

I also use AI for some plant diagnosis but that hasn't led to any meaningful action, except that I'll be more thoughtful about site selection for some plants in the future.

Most of this could just be a collection of documents in a Claude project, but hey if more people are working on it I'm all for that even if there are competing tools.

I've been slowly working for years on letting clover take over my lawn. I have amazing flows of white flowers in the spring, with the red clover now starting to come in as well. I mow it once the flowers pop up to force the growth back down into the root systems, and I've converted more than half of my 5 acres into clover at this point. It also is speeding up, and will probably be fully clover within a year or two.

My point being - your UX doesn't ask what people's goals are. Not everyone wants a "perfect lawn". Even people who do want grass may have different priorities for their grass - low maintenance vs. low water usage vs. really green, etc.

If you want your product to be different than what the lawn care guys will say, then you need to actually let people do different things in the app. Or, if you are dead set on making this into lead gen for lawn care guys, well... I personally find that somewhat disheartening, but clearly I'm not your audience.

I’ll definitely try this out. I have a Claude project for our home and many chat conversations about my lawn.

What I don’t know yet is if the DIY I’m doing with the help of Claude is going to materialize into a lush lawn.

It has me doing pre-emergent spray, broad leaf weed killers, and moss killer.

It’s a lot of work and I’m sure there is a much better UX than saved chats.

I recommend to change the title of this submission to:

    > Veterinarian turned founder, AI lawn diagnosis
When I first saw "vet", I assumed that an American was trying to virtue signal using their armed forces veteran status.
Love the monetization idea. Something like this might actually be the future.
I know you probably worked a bunch on the website, but the amount of AI slop and obvious AI design is an immediate turn off for myself. And I’d theorize more “normies” are getting “spidey senses” on these types of generic Claude-designed products. I’m seeing them pop up weekly on my small town subreddit.

I’d highly recommend telling Claude something like (untested myself): redesign the website, remove all emojis and all letter-spacing CSS, use non conventional typefaces, no italic serifs, limited cream/beige colors

Something along those lines.

Fun idea, good luck!

If you build it on LLMs you have no business...
How do you know the diagnosis is correct?
added make no mistakes to the prompt so it can not be wrong, ez.
Let’s waste more water so we can waste more water. Lawns. Yay. Yawn.
I had the same anti-reaction. Yay, lets all try to tightly control a piece of land and spend an inordinate amount of effort making sure nature will not get a grip on it. Oh piece of land, you shall behave according to my rules! Noise, genetic engineering, pesticides, herbicides: Take that you bad piece of land, Oh my dear 50 m2, you shall remain out of balance and no insect shall ever be happy here! For as long as I live here! Hahaha!

There are many people that do really get happy with a nice lawn, like most of my neighbors. They are even putting up with all of their gasoline leaf blowers that sounds like a motocross is taking place right in our rural street. What is a nice development though is automatic electric lawn mowers, some (some not!) are completely silent and keep that lawn as far from equilibrium as one can with little effort (as in: Some would say it looks "nice", at least it looks "homogeneous".)

So for many people this website is a nice idea! And I do appreciate the effort, for free even! Nice work! If I'd make this I'd add silent and non-toxic methods as the first options. Maybe stimulate some planting some patches of wild flowers for our bug friends that are going through a rough patch atm ;)

Off topic question and probably a far too ambitious idea... but as a veterinarian, have you thought about working on improvements to the software that vets use?

About six months ago I was spending time with a vet friend, and was hearing stories about terrible user interface and ways the software was getting in the way. The story I most remember was a 60 second timeout requirement to enter patient data before the workstation locked and required logging in again, and that a logout while still typing would cause the current notes in progress to be deleted. I have no idea if those problems are caused by regulation (a kind of kitty HIPPA compliance) or just terrible UX.

I worry that vet software is probably a terrible market as well, with regulation and established providers, maybe it's a lower margin business (certainly not a profit center) and maybe edge cases for each vet practice in the US.

As someone with domain knowledge, perhaps that's a challenge you might consider, now that AI makes coding so accessible across domains now? Since I have zero domain knowledge, it seemed like something I could never help solve.

How comes there is this one very specific style the AI makes websites look like with little to no variance?
Um, are your testimonials AI generated or are they real people who really said these things?
To be fair a lot of good product ideas come from personal experiences like yours, not weird. Seems like a solid idea, when you say tailored to location does that account for the different types of grass across geographies? If you're interested in a market snapshot to look at competitors I built a one-time competitive intelligence report tool at stratica.ca covering competitor positioning, market gaps, SWOT, growth action items and more. Could be useful if you want to make it real.

Cheers!

Soil science!

Soil Food Web!

Can topdressing fix lawn problems?

Can mulching clippings instead of bagging fix lawn problems?

How to avoid worsening nitrogen runoff algae blooms with liquid fertilizer? Granulated fertilizer if you must.

White Dutch Clover is a nitrogen fixer that fertilizes soil and feeds the bees.

All broad-leaf herbicides kill clover and dandelions, which bees prefer.

Feature ideas:

- refer for local free soil testing; ?q=soil+testing+{zip code}

- follow-up reminders

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Thanks for helping lawns and thereby animals.

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> Notes re: "Veterinary Animal EHR FHIR" and SPDA: Shelter Pet Data Alliance: https://shelterpetdata.org/ and Petco Love Lost, and a list of shelter and sanctuary softwares that don't yet support FHIR: https://github.com/jupyterhealth/jupyter-health-software/iss...

How do you get dogs to drink more water?

"Googling problems and finding generic solutions"

Your product links are just generic search terms in amazon and local lawn care providers just goes to the angi.com home page.

This feels like an AI play without any real effort.

That’s a great point! However, I think it would be better if your service better reflected the fact that you’re a veterinarian. For example, determining the appropriate grass or turf for grazing horses, or checking whether they’re being cared for in a way that prevents injuries.