> Are we seriously using LoC as a measure of productivity again?
Yes, sadly. Because its how everyone justifies LLMs. "Look at how much code it writes!" is the only measure they can come up with to sell its usefulness, completely forgetting that it'll be more useful if we started talking about how much code they remove.
I don't think it's LOC for productivity, it's LOC which have passed safety scrutiny. We're talking about the kind of code which would pass muster on something like NASA's safety assessments, probably. Takeaway: it's a huge codebase which has been audited for safety.
You missed the "21+ billion safety transistors safety assessed" gem.
I don't even know what that was supposed to mean. Hopefully all the safety transistors in the safety graphics card of my safety-PC were safety-assessed, too /s
I noticed too much use of the word "safety", like the LLM was told to emphasise it, so I did a little test: randomly scroll and move the mouse without looking, is there "safety" in there? I did it for 4 times and every time I found it. Ctrl+F -> 136 results.
I'm very exciting for Nvidia to meaningfully enter this space. I know they've been working on autonomous vehicles for a while now, but it seems like they are approaching a real product. Hopefully, they produce something that can be used on consumer vehicles. We really need good competition in this space. The US market is limited to Tesla FSD and no other manufacturer is even close. I'm not confident individual manufacturers could meaningfully develop their own solutions. A strong third-party option is a great direction for the industry.
I personally found this NVIDIA move very interesting. Automakers generally do not want to become frontier AI infrastructure companies and they love technology standardization.
The real technical challenge is rappresented by edge cases: a software that is excellent 99.9% of the time can still be unacceptable if the remaining 0.1% contains rare but catastrophic scenarios. And that's why we still don't see many self-driving vehicles on the roads today.
However, NVIDIA has a credible shot because it controls much of the loop - hardware, training infrastructure and simulation environment. If it works they will impose a huge vendor lock-in, difficult to replicate for other competitors.
18,600 engineering years sounds impressive to someone because it is the bulk of a career for 1,000 engineers. But it is less than two years for 10,000 engineers. The depth of understanding really hinges on which version is closer to reality.
Meta Horizons World probably puts up similar numbers if you sum up the hardware/software tech stack to get this number.
Probably the only way to catch up to Waymo's technical lead is for every other player to collaborate. The world dearly needs another self-driving car option.
Is anyone else amused that the car shown on the landing page looks a lot like a Tesla Model Y, which famously does _not_ use any Nvidia chips (Tesla onboard computers have been AMD based for some time now)?
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 48.3 ms ] thread> 18,600+ Engineering years invested in vehicle safety to date
What does this even mean?
> 7,000,000 Lines of safety-assessed code
Are we seriously using LoC as a measure of productivity again?
Not to mention the em-dashes
Yes, sadly. Because its how everyone justifies LLMs. "Look at how much code it writes!" is the only measure they can come up with to sell its usefulness, completely forgetting that it'll be more useful if we started talking about how much code they remove.
I don't even know what that was supposed to mean. Hopefully all the safety transistors in the safety graphics card of my safety-PC were safety-assessed, too /s
The real technical challenge is rappresented by edge cases: a software that is excellent 99.9% of the time can still be unacceptable if the remaining 0.1% contains rare but catastrophic scenarios. And that's why we still don't see many self-driving vehicles on the roads today.
However, NVIDIA has a credible shot because it controls much of the loop - hardware, training infrastructure and simulation environment. If it works they will impose a huge vendor lock-in, difficult to replicate for other competitors.
Meta Horizons World probably puts up similar numbers if you sum up the hardware/software tech stack to get this number.
Here's Archive.org's copy of the page from 2025 in September, their earliest copy:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250920031549/https://www.nvidi...
"Safety transistors safety assessed" exists in this version too
The new game is finding a single sentence with the most instances of "safe" or "safety". My current high score is 4..