You're right, when private property included people, nobody questioned the right of the owner to take 90+ percent of what his serfs produced.
I'm being sarcastic of course, I know what you meant. But after you've crossed over the 50% threshold, it feels more like your arrangement with the government is to be milked for tax rather than consensual mutual agreement to protect my rights. I'm working for the government instead of it working for me.
That's not income tax. That's income tax added to payroll taxes added to capital gains taxes added to dividend taxes.
If you're making enough money from dividends and capital gains that you have to pay taxes on them, great! Pay your fucking taxes and don't complain, because most of us don't have investments at all outside our retirement accounts. Ha, that's if we're even fortunate enough to have proper retirement accounts!
And payroll taxes are more or less flat, or even regressive, yeah.
I say all this as someone who already looked at his paychecks once and found that after all the income and payroll taxes came out I was only getting 2/3 my nominal salary in take-home pay. You know what that taught me? Negotiate for net salaries.
You know what it didn't teach me? To complain about how a fortunate person like me has to pay into society to get the public sector out of debt and enable it to afford to help society again.
I found it frightening that you would approach such a topic as property from a historical perspective rather than a philosophical one. Simply because something has been the case throughout most of history doesn't mean it should be.
My first point was the philosophical one that the notion was absurd; that it is artificial and ahistoric were pre-emptive counters to claims that it's natural or traditional (it is neither).
We are in no danger of our money being taken away by the government. I feel that these kinds of articles are just begging for attention.
Also, if you see a problem with the government and how much of your money that they keep, change it. I know it's not a simple process, but it's possible.
This is such a piece of trivial dreck that I would downvote it if I could. There's barely even enough of a real idea for the few paragraphs actually written.
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[ 422 ms ] story [ 1957 ms ] threadThen we have decided to create money to help bartering.
I'm being sarcastic of course, I know what you meant. But after you've crossed over the 50% threshold, it feels more like your arrangement with the government is to be milked for tax rather than consensual mutual agreement to protect my rights. I'm working for the government instead of it working for me.
Here's the Act showing how to do it in Canada: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-20/FullText.html
Here's the act showing how to use the form: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-85-846/FullTex...
If you're making enough money from dividends and capital gains that you have to pay taxes on them, great! Pay your fucking taxes and don't complain, because most of us don't have investments at all outside our retirement accounts. Ha, that's if we're even fortunate enough to have proper retirement accounts!
And payroll taxes are more or less flat, or even regressive, yeah.
I say all this as someone who already looked at his paychecks once and found that after all the income and payroll taxes came out I was only getting 2/3 my nominal salary in take-home pay. You know what that taught me? Negotiate for net salaries.
You know what it didn't teach me? To complain about how a fortunate person like me has to pay into society to get the public sector out of debt and enable it to afford to help society again.
Also, if you see a problem with the government and how much of your money that they keep, change it. I know it's not a simple process, but it's possible.