I've always been a stickler for being specific about which regex language your thing accepts, and whether it is to match any substring, or a prefix, or a suffix, or the whole thing, or a line, or a substring of a line, or whatever.
Here are some of the [more popular][1] ones, and then there are PCRE and Python.
It took me a while to learn that some of the older ones you see in e.g. grep are [specified by POSIX][2].
These already do not work in many tools which require those special characters to be escaped to have any meaning. An easy example is GNU grep, sed, etc. which use BRE ("Basic Regular Expressions") by default. The article mentions GNU coreutils but does not explain that `-E` is required to fix that behavior.
The author is circling around, but not quite reaching, a statement that POSIX Basic Regular Expressions work everywhere, with the caveat that that not everyone has caught up with version 8 of the Single Unix Specification, which has slightly changed BREs.
It drives me nuts when a developer documents something or other as being a "regex" but doesn't mention which dialect of regulation expression he's talking about. This habit is particularly common in the Rust, JavaScript, and Python communities, which seem to forget that their language's regular expression language isn't universal.
Then there’s not just the issue of whether the engine supports a particular syntactical feature but the issue of matching semantics. Perl/PCRE’s semantics are far different from POSIX’s and some implementations different semantics altogether (and quite reasonably).
I built my Rust library for JSONLogic and use bindings for other languages after similar frustrations with Rule engines, template engines and IFTTT engines. https://github.com/GoPlasmatic/datalogic-rs
Emacs in particular I suffer so much from basically guessing what needs to be escaped or not. I know `rx` exists[0] as an alternative but it's not really fun to use.
Even beyond the regex syntax itself, you often also start running into encoding problems when trying to actually use them. Typing the regex in a shell? Make sure to esacpe stuff properly. Regex in Python? Make sure it's a raw string. Etc etc etc
It's a modern miracle we're at least within rhyming distance of how to write regexes in most tools.
> In the 1980s and 1990s, its use faded as newer languages such as AWK and Perl made string manipulation by means of regular expressions fashionable. SNOBOL4 patterns include a way to express BNF grammars, which are equivalent to context-free grammars and more powerful than regular expressions. The "regular expressions" in current versions of AWK and Perl are in fact extensions of regular expressions in the traditional sense, but regular expressions, unlike SNOBOL4 patterns, are not recursive, which gives a distinct computational advantage to SNOBOL4 patterns.
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[ 2.4 ms ] story [ 34.8 ms ] threadHere are some of the [more popular][1] ones, and then there are PCRE and Python.
It took me a while to learn that some of the older ones you see in e.g. grep are [specified by POSIX][2].
[1]: https://cppreference.com/cpp/regex#Regular_expression_gramma...
[2]: https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009696899/basedefs/xbd...
These already do not work in many tools which require those special characters to be escaped to have any meaning. An easy example is GNU grep, sed, etc. which use BRE ("Basic Regular Expressions") by default. The article mentions GNU coreutils but does not explain that `-E` is required to fix that behavior.
https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10534654
https://json-schema.org/understanding-json-schema/reference/...
Even beyond the regex syntax itself, you often also start running into encoding problems when trying to actually use them. Typing the regex in a shell? Make sure to esacpe stuff properly. Regex in Python? Make sure it's a raw string. Etc etc etc
It's a modern miracle we're at least within rhyming distance of how to write regexes in most tools.
[0]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Rx...
1. You can not compose a bigger regexp out of smaller ones
2. A regexp can not "call" other regexps
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9485
Amusing pair of statements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNOBOL
> In the 1980s and 1990s, its use faded as newer languages such as AWK and Perl made string manipulation by means of regular expressions fashionable. SNOBOL4 patterns include a way to express BNF grammars, which are equivalent to context-free grammars and more powerful than regular expressions. The "regular expressions" in current versions of AWK and Perl are in fact extensions of regular expressions in the traditional sense, but regular expressions, unlike SNOBOL4 patterns, are not recursive, which gives a distinct computational advantage to SNOBOL4 patterns.
I find it a good reading.
It does not support the + repetition operator.
- \w, \W, \s, \S - need to use POSIX classes instead: [[:alnum:]], [^[:alnum:]], [[:space:]], [^[:space:]]
- \b - need to use use [[:<:]] (word start) and [[:>:]] (word end) instead
- \B - (not a word start/end) no alternatives