There is a good exhibit on this at the Miraikan in Odaiba, Tokyo. Detecting things and proving we detected what we detected we previously couldn't is always a fascinating exercise, especially whilst so much matter is still unrecognised.
HN automangled the title, should have a “how” at the beginning. The change makes the headline sound like this is news, but it’s just a description of neutrino detectors.
The Super Kamiokande had a terrible engineering event where the delicate sensor bulbs shattered, and the pressure delta from one shattering caused neighbors to shatter, in a chain reaction that destroyed large amounts of sensors.
>Neutrinos come in three different “flavors” (electron, muon, and tau) and can oscillate, or switch, between them. To do so, neutrinos must have mass
Why? What actually is "Neutrino oscillation" and why does it require the neutrino have mass? My already feeble understanding of particle and quantum physics always breaks down at these sorts of points.
How are we sure that the neutrino is in fact a single particle that should use the same sort of mathematical machinery as all others? Am I even asking a question that means something? I know literally every physicist ever graduated has spent time thinking everything in physics is wrong and tried poking at such ideas, so I guess I'm more interested in what those kids end up finding that brings them back to "No this makes more sense" of neutrinos in the standard model.
Could a physicist comment on this? I've been reading on the CNO cycle [1], where it says neutrinos produced in the beta-decay steps can have any share of the resulting energy. Does it mean the Sun is shrouded in a rarefied cloud of such low-energy neutrinos which failed to achieve escape velocity?
From the (captions under photographs) in the article:
'Located 2.1 kilometers underground in the Creighton mine in Ontario, Canada, the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory’s detector (left) was filled with “heavy” water, which features deuterium in place of hydrogen atoms. Its findings provided evidence that neutrinos can change, or “oscillate,” between different flavors.'
"China’s Jiangmen Underground Neutrino Observatory (JUNO), seen here under construction in 2023, is currently the world’s largest neutrino detector. It began collecting data in August 2025; one of its main goals is to determine the outstanding mystery of how heavy each flavor of neutrino is."
The second caption implies that some "flavors" of neutrino may be heavier than other flavors. The first caption says that neutrinos oscillate between different flavors. If the first caption is correct, then wouldn't each flavor of neutrino be just as heavy as the others?
In a great coincidence, just months after being put into operation, a new type of detector meant to study if protons are stable, detected instead the neutrinos coming from the supernova in a way that could be individually timestamped. No other supernova has been visible with the naked eye ever since, or is likely to be seen in our lifetimes.
The neutrinos arrived 3 hours before the supernova was first seen in the sky. This could mean that neutrinos travel faster than light: that they negative mass. It has not been ruled out yet, but it would take extraordinary evidence for any physicist to admit to a faster-than-light particle.
The core of supernovae are predicted to take around 4 seconds to explode, and during that time they release 99% of the energy that was binding the star together as neutrinos. Once this has happened, however, it takes several hours for the explosion to be visible outside.
If they had 0 mass, you'd expect the burst of neutrinos to last for about 4 seconds. The detected spread was of around 6 seconds.
It was likely that the model for supernovae was missing something. But perhaps neutrinos are slowed down as they interact with other particles on the way here from the supernova. Massless particles always travel at the speed of light, only massive particles can be slowed down. Perhaps neutrinos have mass.
In order to test the basic theory of nuclear fusion in stars, the "Homestake experiment" was set up to count neutrinos from the Sun.
The experiment consists of a big tank of perchloroethylene. Electron neutrinos (and only electron neutrinos) are expected to collide with the Cl-37 atoms to form Ar-37 in the reverse reaction to that of radioactive beta decay. Then the individual Ar-37 atoms can be separated into a gas and counted.
According to the brightness of the Sun, it was expected that around 50 such Ar-37 atoms would be detected every 100 days. Only 17 were observerd, on average. A third of the neutrinos went missing.
A new round of experiments was made, culminating in the fantastically sophisticated Super-Kamiokande, which is sentitive to all other "flavours" of neutrinos, and also capable of detecting the direction they are coming from.
It was confirmed that the missing 2/3 of the electron neutrinos expected to come from the Sun had somehow transformed into the other flavours. What's more, muon neutrinos coming from cosmic ray decay in the atmosphere were detected half as frequently in an upwards direction, coming from the other side of the Earth, than in the downwards direction.
The conclusion is that neutrinos must change flavour as they move through space.
Particle accelerators were built in several sites, pointing towards the Super-Kamiokande across the earth's crust, sending a beam of neutrinos of a known kind to measure this "oscillation".
Since they have mass, the artificial neutrinos are slightly dispersed by their passage through the Earth's crust. Their arrival time forms three different overlapping peaks, corresponding to three different masses.
The proportion of each kind changes along the path in a sinusoidal fashion, but the mass peaks remain.
The current interpretation is that the mass and the flavour of neutrinos are (almost) "conjugate" properties of the particles, in a similar way to the well-known uncertaint...
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 32.8 ms ] threadThe Super Kamiokande had a terrible engineering event where the delicate sensor bulbs shattered, and the pressure delta from one shattering caused neighbors to shatter, in a chain reaction that destroyed large amounts of sensors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoBFjD5tn_E
Unrelated:
>Neutrinos come in three different “flavors” (electron, muon, and tau) and can oscillate, or switch, between them. To do so, neutrinos must have mass
Why? What actually is "Neutrino oscillation" and why does it require the neutrino have mass? My already feeble understanding of particle and quantum physics always breaks down at these sorts of points.
How are we sure that the neutrino is in fact a single particle that should use the same sort of mathematical machinery as all others? Am I even asking a question that means something? I know literally every physicist ever graduated has spent time thinking everything in physics is wrong and tried poking at such ideas, so I guess I'm more interested in what those kids end up finding that brings them back to "No this makes more sense" of neutrinos in the standard model.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNO_cycle
"China’s Jiangmen Underground Neutrino Observatory (JUNO), seen here under construction in 2023, is currently the world’s largest neutrino detector. It began collecting data in August 2025; one of its main goals is to determine the outstanding mystery of how heavy each flavor of neutrino is."
The second caption implies that some "flavors" of neutrino may be heavier than other flavors. The first caption says that neutrinos oscillate between different flavors. If the first caption is correct, then wouldn't each flavor of neutrino be just as heavy as the others?
In a great coincidence, just months after being put into operation, a new type of detector meant to study if protons are stable, detected instead the neutrinos coming from the supernova in a way that could be individually timestamped. No other supernova has been visible with the naked eye ever since, or is likely to be seen in our lifetimes.
https://sci-hub.st/10.1103/PhysRevLett.58.1494
The neutrinos arrived 3 hours before the supernova was first seen in the sky. This could mean that neutrinos travel faster than light: that they negative mass. It has not been ruled out yet, but it would take extraordinary evidence for any physicist to admit to a faster-than-light particle.
The core of supernovae are predicted to take around 4 seconds to explode, and during that time they release 99% of the energy that was binding the star together as neutrinos. Once this has happened, however, it takes several hours for the explosion to be visible outside.
If they had 0 mass, you'd expect the burst of neutrinos to last for about 4 seconds. The detected spread was of around 6 seconds.
It was likely that the model for supernovae was missing something. But perhaps neutrinos are slowed down as they interact with other particles on the way here from the supernova. Massless particles always travel at the speed of light, only massive particles can be slowed down. Perhaps neutrinos have mass.
In order to test the basic theory of nuclear fusion in stars, the "Homestake experiment" was set up to count neutrinos from the Sun.
https://sci-hub.st/10.1126/science.191.4224.264
The experiment consists of a big tank of perchloroethylene. Electron neutrinos (and only electron neutrinos) are expected to collide with the Cl-37 atoms to form Ar-37 in the reverse reaction to that of radioactive beta decay. Then the individual Ar-37 atoms can be separated into a gas and counted.
According to the brightness of the Sun, it was expected that around 50 such Ar-37 atoms would be detected every 100 days. Only 17 were observerd, on average. A third of the neutrinos went missing.
A new round of experiments was made, culminating in the fantastically sophisticated Super-Kamiokande, which is sentitive to all other "flavours" of neutrinos, and also capable of detecting the direction they are coming from.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ex/9807003
It was confirmed that the missing 2/3 of the electron neutrinos expected to come from the Sun had somehow transformed into the other flavours. What's more, muon neutrinos coming from cosmic ray decay in the atmosphere were detected half as frequently in an upwards direction, coming from the other side of the Earth, than in the downwards direction.
The conclusion is that neutrinos must change flavour as they move through space.
Particle accelerators were built in several sites, pointing towards the Super-Kamiokande across the earth's crust, sending a beam of neutrinos of a known kind to measure this "oscillation".
https://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ex/0606032
Since they have mass, the artificial neutrinos are slightly dispersed by their passage through the Earth's crust. Their arrival time forms three different overlapping peaks, corresponding to three different masses.
The proportion of each kind changes along the path in a sinusoidal fashion, but the mass peaks remain.
The current interpretation is that the mass and the flavour of neutrinos are (almost) "conjugate" properties of the particles, in a similar way to the well-known uncertaint...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0106tjc