> Fire fighters were not paid salaries, however. Each fire company was staffed with 36 residents of the district, serving under the command of two fire masters. Each man appointed had to serve a year or pay a fine of ten guilders.
Not sure about density in urban old Rome or old Amsterdam, but sounds like their "fire brigade" ended up quite larger in Rome unless Amsterdam had a lot of "districts":
> After Egnatius' death, Augustus set up his own fire brigade, which also consisted of 600 slaves, and later, in 7 or 6 BCE the fire brigade was enlarged, now consisting of 3,500 freedmen, the vigiles, who were divided into seven cohorts of 500 men each and made subordinate to a praefectus vigilum. In about 200 CE, their number was doubled to 7,000 men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Egnatius_Rufus
Seriously Crassus. I know the idea of a rich bastard who starts fires and then makes money putting them out is unbelievable in our modern age but it was a real thing.
Lmao I could not believe this when I read it. Had to do my due diligence in wikipedia afterwards. It's legit! [1]
[1] - Fires were almost a daily occurrence in Rome, and Crassus took advantage of the fact that Rome had no fire department, by creating his own brigade—500 men strong—which rushed to burning buildings at the first cry of alarm. Upon arriving at the scene, however, the firefighters did nothing while Crassus offered to buy the burning building from the distressed property owner, at a miserable price. If the owner agreed to sell the property, his men would put out the fire; if the owner refused, then they would simply let the structure burn to the ground. After buying many properties this way, he rebuilt them, and often leased the properties to their original owners or new tenants.
The article describes several actual inventions that are still the foundation of modern fire departments. It goes without saying that they didn't come up with the idea of organized firefighting.
[[Come on you guys - you should know better than to post lazy internet ripostes to shallowly provocative titles. This is a fine and interesting historical article.]]
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Funny, I'm Dutch and have an arts degree so obviously the name Van der Heyden is familiar to me, but I didn't know he was also an engineer who modernized our firefighting systems.
Having said that, "Dutch goldeo age painter invented better way to pump water out of the Amsterdam canals" sounds more like someone tried to cram as many stereotypes about the Dutch into a sentence than an accurate summary of something that actually happened, haha.
Not so much "poor" 'cause that is rare in the Netherlands. Having said that fatbikes are significantly less expensive than other electric bicycles so they are more popular with those who don't want to or can't spend as much money on an electric bike.
About 200 years after the Van der Heyden brothers turned firefighting into municipal infrastructure, Amsterdam did the same for the common problem of horses falling into canals.
Paardenreddingstoestel means "horse rescue apparatus." Johan Christoph Sinck's own technical term was verplaatsbare hijsinrichting, "portable lifting apparatus." The machine itself became known as het toestel van Sinck ("Sinck's device"), with the nickname het zinktoestel ("the sinking device"), a pun on zinken, "to sink."
1852: Gerrit Sinck (1815–1886), originally a leerlooier (tanner), opens Amsterdam's first paardenslagerij (horse slaughterhouse) at Marnixstraat 194. He buys worn-out work horses, tans hides, and sells horse meat.
In the 1860s his son Johan Christoph Sinck (1837–1923) develops the verplaatsbare hijsinrichting after repeatedly helping recover horses from canals with improvised gieken (derricks/booms). The design is a mobiele driepoot met takel ("mobile tripod with hoist").
The apparatus is first reported in Algemeen Handelsblad on 15 November 1869 after recovering a horse and heavy miller's wagon from a canal.
From the 1870s onward Amsterdam police and the fire brigade summon Sinck through a direct telegraph line whenever a horse enters a canal. The apparatus is used about 50 times a year, roughly once a week.
At the 1883 Amsterdam International Colonial and Export Exhibition Sinck exhibits a model together with recovery statistics: 94 horses, 4 cattle, 2 hearses, 3 omnibuses, 73 carriages, 66 freight wagons, 2 steam boilers, plus barrels of margarine, syrup, tobacco, and Liernur sewage machinery.
In 1908 the city considers buying a second toestel van Sinck but decides one is sufficient because simultaneous canal recoveries are rare.
In 1917 Amsterdam purchases the apparatus. The fire brigade continues using it into the 1930s.
On 16 July 1929 the famous photograph is published in the evening edition of Algemeen Handelsblad. A horse belonging to Vogelpoel en Noorwegen bolts into the canal at Westermarkt, swims beneath the bridge at the Herengracht/Leliegracht, and is lifted out with Sinck's device, six years after Johan Christoph Sinck's death.
Yeah, and keep in mind most of those houses where merchant houses where trade happened at the time so there probably was a lot of loading and unloading going on everywhere.
Although, given the current-day Dutch attitude to bike helmets I wouldn't be surprised if our ancestors were just being stubborn too, haha.
Most likely the latter. Thousands of bikes, a hundred people, and more than thirty cars fall in to Amsterdam canals each year. "What to do if your car falls in the water" is part of driver's ed.
When learning kayaking you have to practice a water escape, I wish there was something similar for driver's ed in the Netherlands. Thinking about it is terrifying.
>But the PvdD, which has long opposed the experiment, has started a social media campaign raising its concerns about animal welfare, after a second cow fell into the water and had to be rescued on King’s Day. It is believed that the animal was crossing from the floating platform to a small area of grassland for the cows on the dockside, and could not climb out.
Oh bummer, it's really hard to get a cow crane on Kings day, they are all tied up rescuing drunks from the canals. Surge pricing, owch!
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 45.2 ms ] threadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighting_in_ancient_Rome
And private firefighters were active even earlier, with Crassus particularly notorious:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Licinius_Crassus
> Fire fighters were not paid salaries, however. Each fire company was staffed with 36 residents of the district, serving under the command of two fire masters. Each man appointed had to serve a year or pay a fine of ten guilders.
Not sure about density in urban old Rome or old Amsterdam, but sounds like their "fire brigade" ended up quite larger in Rome unless Amsterdam had a lot of "districts":
> After Egnatius' death, Augustus set up his own fire brigade, which also consisted of 600 slaves, and later, in 7 or 6 BCE the fire brigade was enlarged, now consisting of 3,500 freedmen, the vigiles, who were divided into seven cohorts of 500 men each and made subordinate to a praefectus vigilum. In about 200 CE, their number was doubled to 7,000 men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Egnatius_Rufus
[1] - Fires were almost a daily occurrence in Rome, and Crassus took advantage of the fact that Rome had no fire department, by creating his own brigade—500 men strong—which rushed to burning buildings at the first cry of alarm. Upon arriving at the scene, however, the firefighters did nothing while Crassus offered to buy the burning building from the distressed property owner, at a miserable price. If the owner agreed to sell the property, his men would put out the fire; if the owner refused, then they would simply let the structure burn to the ground. After buying many properties this way, he rebuilt them, and often leased the properties to their original owners or new tenants.
Fully paid, professional municipal departments came in 1853 Cincinnati.
So I guess it depends on how you define it. US gets a lot of credit for the idea of a “fire department”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Braidwood
This is yet another absurd AI generated slopticle.
We will have a generation of AI fed morons.
"Firefighting in Ancient Rome"
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=uO538fBcbm4C&q=Firefigh...
[[Come on you guys - you should know better than to post lazy internet ripostes to shallowly provocative titles. This is a fine and interesting historical article.]]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ
Having said that, "Dutch goldeo age painter invented better way to pump water out of the Amsterdam canals" sounds more like someone tried to cram as many stereotypes about the Dutch into a sentence than an accurate summary of something that actually happened, haha.
That would generally speaking be the average Dutch person, no?
Disappointingly this isn't the origin of the English word slang. It seems to be of Viking origin.
If I said a word came from the hacker culture, is it relevant that hacker isn't a language and hackers aren't an ethnic group?
Paardenreddingstoestel means "horse rescue apparatus." Johan Christoph Sinck's own technical term was verplaatsbare hijsinrichting, "portable lifting apparatus." The machine itself became known as het toestel van Sinck ("Sinck's device"), with the nickname het zinktoestel ("the sinking device"), a pun on zinken, "to sink."
1852: Gerrit Sinck (1815–1886), originally a leerlooier (tanner), opens Amsterdam's first paardenslagerij (horse slaughterhouse) at Marnixstraat 194. He buys worn-out work horses, tans hides, and sells horse meat.
In the 1860s his son Johan Christoph Sinck (1837–1923) develops the verplaatsbare hijsinrichting after repeatedly helping recover horses from canals with improvised gieken (derricks/booms). The design is a mobiele driepoot met takel ("mobile tripod with hoist").
The apparatus is first reported in Algemeen Handelsblad on 15 November 1869 after recovering a horse and heavy miller's wagon from a canal.
From the 1870s onward Amsterdam police and the fire brigade summon Sinck through a direct telegraph line whenever a horse enters a canal. The apparatus is used about 50 times a year, roughly once a week.
At the 1883 Amsterdam International Colonial and Export Exhibition Sinck exhibits a model together with recovery statistics: 94 horses, 4 cattle, 2 hearses, 3 omnibuses, 73 carriages, 66 freight wagons, 2 steam boilers, plus barrels of margarine, syrup, tobacco, and Liernur sewage machinery.
In 1908 the city considers buying a second toestel van Sinck but decides one is sufficient because simultaneous canal recoveries are rare.
In 1917 Amsterdam purchases the apparatus. The fire brigade continues using it into the 1930s.
On 16 July 1929 the famous photograph is published in the evening edition of Algemeen Handelsblad. A horse belonging to Vogelpoel en Noorwegen bolts into the canal at Westermarkt, swims beneath the bridge at the Herengracht/Leliegracht, and is lifted out with Sinck's device, six years after Johan Christoph Sinck's death.
Official Amsterdam City Archives story:
https://www.amsterdam.nl/stadsarchief/stukken/dieren/paard-w...
Official Amsterdam City Archives image:
https://archief.amsterdam/beeldbank/detail/875cdbf3-7446-304...
Background on the Sinck family, the invention, contemporary newspapers, and exhibition records:
https://www.hippomobielerfgoed.nl/2020/sinck/
Horse rescue in Amsterdam canals:
https://www.hippomobielerfgoed.nl/2018/in-de-amsterdamse-gra...
Works in Progress article on Jan and Nicolaas van der Heyden's municipal firefighting system:
https://worksinprogress.co/issue/how-amsterdam-invented-the-...
Although, given the current-day Dutch attitude to bike helmets I wouldn't be surprised if our ancestors were just being stubborn too, haha.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2021/05/rotterdam-floating-farm-cri...
Oh bummer, it's really hard to get a cow crane on Kings day, they are all tied up rescuing drunks from the canals. Surge pricing, owch!