can Vercel give any assurance that they won’t add a reliance on their closed-source cloud offering for the package? especially given their ownership of next-auth too
i really loved better-auth’s DX but the nature of their database adapters means it’s relatively easy to switch over to another provider/library
Keycloak is awesome, but whenever I used it the documentation gave me too little guidance. On how to use it in the right way, without having to customize it too much.
Uggggg I just implemented Better Auth for our new product - time to start looking for backup plans. I used to be a huge Vercel fanboy but everything they have done in the last few years turns into a complicated mess.
This is amazing although I would really like for them to explore filling the backend gaps. An acquisition of Trigger.dev or Inngest would be the obvious move and nobody would be surprised. Thoughts?
I used Better Auth for my mobile app backend. It works okayish. My biggest complaints are the OpenAPI specification gets little care, as it mainly caters for JS frontend, and breaking changes in patch version are more common than most packages.
the team at Vercel has been my biggest inspiration and always reflected many of the reasons we started working on Better Auth. This would allow us to focus more on what made better-auth great in the first place It hasn't even been 2 years since we started but thank you everyone from the open-source community for helping us make an impact in short amount of time. There is a lot to do to improve on open source auth and im really excited to be back focusing full time on building
what will be your role at Vercel? Aren't you afraid that you might lose control over the project's future - becoming a cog in a much more complex system?
Congrats BetterAuth! It was the system I was considering before I rolled my own auth system around the passwordless concepts of: OTP + Passkeys + Google login. It is quite nice and simple and I've ported it to 3 separate projects now just via LLM:
On one hand I love how much easier the email + OTP / passkey flow is on the dev side, I find it _very_ frustrating as a user of services. User+password combos are straightforward at least.
So, it's just a matter of time until they destroy this project in favour of their cloud interests. Such a shame, it is (was) a nice open source project.
Open source isn't really open any more. It's just pre-acquisition. I'm happy to the creators for their payday but honestly just happy I opted out of BetterAuth building my latest product.
so does anything change or will change for better-auth FOSS consumers? Or not really and that mostly depends on what Vercel imposes as new direction going forward? I guess vercel is a good home for foss projects, at worst they'll make first class adoption on their ecosystem without actively hampering others etc
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https://www.keycloak.org
https://www.cncf.io/blog/2023/04/11/keycloak-joins-cncf-as-a...
Anything that makes it easier for developers to build secure applications is a win!
Glad I decided to roll my own auth rather then using some library. I had a feeling that eventually they will join Vercel.
the team at Vercel has been my biggest inspiration and always reflected many of the reasons we started working on Better Auth. This would allow us to focus more on what made better-auth great in the first place It hasn't even been 2 years since we started but thank you everyone from the open-source community for helping us make an impact in short amount of time. There is a lot to do to improve on open source auth and im really excited to be back focusing full time on building
Congratulations on the acquisition!
We are building auth for developing markets (secure MFA for users without smartphones).
Would love to get your thoughts on the auth landscape.
I'm +254-seven-zero-seven-144992 on WhatsApp.
Cheers!
Talk: https://ben3d.ca/blog/passwordless-login-system
Live Demo: https://passwordless.ben3d.ca
Demo Code: https://github.com/bhouston/passwordless
If you are building a user system with a database already, adding passwordless auth is easy.
Best of luck over there!