How many people still write code by hand?

4 points by intenex ↗ HN
Just curious what the vibe check is these days.

When was the last time you wrote an actual meaningful line of code yourself by hand?

Anyone here not using LLMs at all? Curious to see the spectrum of answers and rationales here!

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how many calculate numbers on pen and papers. Still
at all? i guess no one, but i think there's still a portion of people writing part of their code by hand, like libs, utils, classes etc that the agent can use directly instead the agent will generate their own piece from the scratch in order to protect maintainability
Sometimes I do on leetcode type things to keep my skills but today on the job I have run out of my AI allotment and Im not sure what to do.
Zero usage of LLM (assembly coding, and sometimes plain and simple C).

I cannot access them to test if they would be of any help in my coding use cases.

You tell me once we get some inference access with a web API with public tokens (probably severely rate limited), or with full interop on noscript/basic HTML.

I may have to run locally open weight coding frontier models (slooooooow).

i didnt use em atall for a long time but since recently i use them almost exclusively, they definitely passed my skills for larger projects...

i code by hand for fun, got few tinkering projects. to learn new things i can tell the thing. sometimes i get them from what the models output. play with it by hand to get a feel for it.

Commenting because I'm interested in the answers as well.

Stats say over 90% of engineers use AI to code, but the actual split of manual/AI is harder to say.

I do. I have tried using LLMs ( as a bootstrapped solopreneur tried optimizations via free AI ) it worked out ok for fast prototypes but even so had enough issues to not consider it for my non-throw away serious work (including iOS game in production) except in a limited fashion such as to spin up few shallow SwiftUI views , get typical implementation for stuff like IAP , GDPR regs, etc. for all the non-core code which is used by almost every game. This is what I used to look up Stack Overflow etc. pre AI. I do not turn on AI integration in Xcode. Leary of sharing my code base on my proprietary code for the game as well as my other products.
I all of write my code by hand. On the one hand, I can see the incredible speed that AI can provide. However, speed isn't my primary value. I value who I become through the act of creation, my own achievement under my own agency, and the satisfaction of deep and focussed work. I also like programming, so there's that lol. I have found that I need to experience my own failures in the process so I know where to focus personal development efforts.

I've used AI for development a few times. However, I find that it intermediates my relationship with my craft in a manner I don't like. It can feel powerful, but it also injects the feeling of contempt into my work. I feel frustration when I do the work and find a failure, but that revolves to satisfaction after I learn.