Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI (politico.com)

Not in Trump's power.

Under what authority could he block access?

he cant shut them off anyways, anyone can just VPN to europe and download them

The only thing Trump can do is building the US version of GFW, which he knows better than anyone else.

We must all hoard all available models before they get taken down. Is anyone archiving huggingface?

I think this would be foolish, a more sound strategy is to focus on critical infrastructure and defense not using models that are "open" but they're really just binary blobs. We have models here in the states like OLMo that could receive more investing to attempt to bring them up to par with some of the frontier open-weight models, removing a lot of these concerns.

> the US can “sanction” companies that engage in intellectual property theft.

Peak hypocrisy, US AI companies can train on unlimited intellectual property with 0 rights to it, while Chinese AI companies have to explicitly get the rights to data that isn’t even copyrightable/copyrighted (since AI alone can’t copyright it).

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Don't model weights fall under free speech?

I tell everyone whenever I get a chance, download any open weights models you can as soon as possible.

Buy extra hardrives. Borrow them. Do whatever you have to do.

But to paraphrase Éomer, don't trust to hope, it has abandoned these lands.

If there were ever a sign I need to get mirroring, this is it.

What are the best Chinese models on HuggingFace today? Bucket by ideal RAM: <16GB, <32GB, <96, <256, 256+

Text generation, image generation, TTS, etc

The U.S. does NOT have copyright protections on the data that AI models were and are trained on, it was mass theft. Now all of a sudden, the Chinese are stealing from the thieves and we’re supposed to care?

No one cares, we just want cheaper AI models that are equally as powerful. They’re all thieves regardless.

How do you ban numbers?

I think we should shut it off. It would force US companies to build open models.

Illegal numbers 2: Electric Trumpaloo

side note : I wish they had an actual link to the companies instead of just their names in https://littletech.org/membership

So Y Combinator signed it too? But this is HN, Y combinator website. I think I am missing something because I never read any opinion like 'we should ban Chinese models'.

Why jump to complex technical and policy solutions when an Open Weights AI champion trophy, in solid gold, is being requested by the Commander in Thief?

The point of open weight models is that this is not possible, companies will be built by taking 'contraband' chinese open weight models and marketing as something from the US

The turntables do their thing.

I see we're doing "too big to fail" again...

The US government exists to protect American capital and the interests of capital owners. I'm not sure why people are still confused by this.

This is about OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceX. OpenAI, in particular, is a bet on there being a moat for AI and OpenAI "winning". Chinese models threaten this moat. The CCP has decided that it is in China's national security interests to not have Western companies "own" or "win" AI. These AI giants are large enough that the US government is going to intervene to try and protect this outcome. This is a losing battle.