Somehow it is always Russian technologists and designers who sweat this type of stuff the most and want to talk about it. When I moved from Russia to a western country in my teenage years, as a fledging web developer and previously an avid Kovodstvo [1] reader, I remember feeling upset, surprised, and deeply disappointed by the state of the real-world English language - particularly when it came to punctuation. It shocked me to see how loose and vibe-y it was, even in professional contexts. Nowadays, I understand that the majority of the world’s population has a much more casual relationship with the formal rules of their language, if those exist at all, compared to the hyper-pedantic Russians. I’m not one to say who really should be learning from whom.
There’s a quick note about the interrobang (‽) at the end. I’ve long had it in my macOS/iOS text replacement config, but nearly every font renders it so poorly that I usually manually retype the characters. It looks like a typographical mistake more often than communicating the questioned surprise that’s intended.
There was a push a few years ago by some modern fonts (as illustrated in the article) to place the overlapping exclamation and question mark at a 30-45° from each other while sharing the same dot below, which is a huge improvement, but I doubt older fonts will ever be updated.
> The period is used as a decimal symbol in English language — as well as in the language of former British colonies, in China, Japan, and some other countries.
This one, as a native french speaker, is the bane of my existence since I started using computers 42 years ago.
To me having the period/dot as the decimal symbol simply makes sense and I see both the period/dot and the comma as valid decimal symbols. And I really wish I could say: "either period/dot or comma as the decimal symbol, and NEVER EVER any separator for thousands/millions, etc.".
Because both:
12.48
and
12,48
do make sense.
While either:
1,000,000.77
or:
1.000.000,77
are DUMBFUCKTARDED notations.
And I'm not alone in thinking that:
"The 22nd General Conference on Weights and Measures[27] declared in 2003, "The symbol for the decimal marker shall be either the point on the line or the comma on the line." It further reaffirmed,[27]
Numbers may be divided in groups of three in order to facilitate reading; neither dots nor commas are ever inserted in the spaces between groups
That is, "1 000 000 000" is preferred over "1,000,000,000" or "1.000.000.000". This use has therefore been recommended by technical organizations, such as the United States's National Institute of Standards and Technology."
But because sooooo many software still use those dumbfucktarded notations where pointless separators are used to needlessly separate groups, it's not possible to say:
"either dot/period/comma is the decimal separator"
Wanna talk about co-workers having different locales and online spreadsheet with numbers looking different? What about a spreadsheet where on one computer a formula begins with:
=SUM(...
while on another computer, on the same desk, that freaking same formula is:
=SOMME(...
This is facepalming retardation on a level of fucktardedness that cannot be understated.
> According to GOST technical standards, Russian language uses the semicolon to denote time:
Is it correct that Russian officially uses a semicolon (;) to separate time elements, or is this just a translation error?
> : (semicolon) for separating the elements of the time of the day (‘day’, ‘minute’, ‘minute and second’);
The example right below it seems to make clear that it's just an error, but then I wondered if the use of a regular colon (:) there was somehow the error instead.
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(Except printed in a really cool font!)
1: https://www.artlebedev.com/mandership/
There was a push a few years ago by some modern fonts (as illustrated in the article) to place the overlapping exclamation and question mark at a 30-45° from each other while sharing the same dot below, which is a huge improvement, but I doubt older fonts will ever be updated.
What? I was taught danish, english, german, french - never European.
Compose key, period, period = ellipsis …
Compose key, period, equals = bullet •
Compose key, period, minus = interpunct ·
Compose key, !, ? = interrobang ‽
This one, as a native french speaker, is the bane of my existence since I started using computers 42 years ago.
To me having the period/dot as the decimal symbol simply makes sense and I see both the period/dot and the comma as valid decimal symbols. And I really wish I could say: "either period/dot or comma as the decimal symbol, and NEVER EVER any separator for thousands/millions, etc.".
Because both:
and do make sense.While either:
or: are DUMBFUCKTARDED notations.And I'm not alone in thinking that:
"The 22nd General Conference on Weights and Measures[27] declared in 2003, "The symbol for the decimal marker shall be either the point on the line or the comma on the line." It further reaffirmed,[27]
Numbers may be divided in groups of three in order to facilitate reading; neither dots nor commas are ever inserted in the spaces between groups
That is, "1 000 000 000" is preferred over "1,000,000,000" or "1.000.000.000". This use has therefore been recommended by technical organizations, such as the United States's National Institute of Standards and Technology."
But because sooooo many software still use those dumbfucktarded notations where pointless separators are used to needlessly separate groups, it's not possible to say:
"either dot/period/comma is the decimal separator"
Wanna talk about co-workers having different locales and online spreadsheet with numbers looking different? What about a spreadsheet where on one computer a formula begins with:
while on another computer, on the same desk, that freaking same formula is: This is facepalming retardation on a level of fucktardedness that cannot be understated.Is it correct that Russian officially uses a semicolon (;) to separate time elements, or is this just a translation error?
> : (semicolon) for separating the elements of the time of the day (‘day’, ‘minute’, ‘minute and second’);
The example right below it seems to make clear that it's just an error, but then I wondered if the use of a regular colon (:) there was somehow the error instead.