IF there was a secure and trustable way that a trusted government could retain DNA information, then I feel like people having a DNA test at birth or on becoming a citizen could be useful, both medically ("your sample indicates you may have a higher risk of dementia") and from a policing standpoint ("we found DNA on this woman's clothes and immediately matched it to this man who hasn't committed a crime before" or "we were able to identify this john doe because their DNA was on record"). However, given that companies and governments are awful, I don't think it could ever actually work in practice :/
In some countries, when you go to work there they take full fingerprints (fingers, palm, etc.) plus a blood sample for DNA. Works extremely well in deterring crime.
From a technology perspective, it is really not that hard to keep all this on an air-gapped network and just run comparisons against it "offline" and get a result back with all the info you need when there is a match.
so, ultimately, it doesn't matter what the technology, the operative word is always "trusted government" and there isn't like, a replacement to "trusted government"; people who trust fascists will of course tell you they have a "Trusted government".
So it all really just comes back to implementing governance that has the correct leverage on power. America is definitely not that, and this will be abused in all manners if america continues down fascism.
Of course there's always things we just shouldn't store, like logs of password hashes or whatever, but most of reality hinged on "trusted government"
They don't mention this, but one major reason for this is to validate claims of family units and prevent trafficking.
This is, I suspect, a good thing. The article never states any downsides, other then nebulous claims. Yes, DNA is like finger printing someone, which is routinely done for arrests, but has the benefit of assisting in claims of family relations, which is at the heart of many ICE concerns.
Framing things as protecting children from predators, corporations, governments, etc... seems to always be the justification given for and against any measure directed at them. Child trafficking is real. Governments are already moving toward age verification online. Most people seem to legitimately only care about privacy or children's protection when it serves as a bludgeoning tool for "their team." Consider me sufficiently jaded on this issue.
> Agency spreadsheets Georgetown obtained and analyzed show it sent the FBI the DNA of at least 1.36 million people between October 2020 and the end of 2024, more than a dozen times ICE's rate during the same time period.
So at the same time we saw a mass increase in border crossings we were also collecting their DNA? That's a huge number.
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[ 0.27 ms ] story [ 26.8 ms ] threadFrom a technology perspective, it is really not that hard to keep all this on an air-gapped network and just run comparisons against it "offline" and get a result back with all the info you need when there is a match.
So it all really just comes back to implementing governance that has the correct leverage on power. America is definitely not that, and this will be abused in all manners if america continues down fascism.
Of course there's always things we just shouldn't store, like logs of password hashes or whatever, but most of reality hinged on "trusted government"
This is, I suspect, a good thing. The article never states any downsides, other then nebulous claims. Yes, DNA is like finger printing someone, which is routinely done for arrests, but has the benefit of assisting in claims of family relations, which is at the heart of many ICE concerns.
next up, armed ICE around voting locations despite federal law
because "just try to stop us"
then refusal to seat voted delegates
because "just try to stop us"
the idea is to normalize the obscenity of it all, like the billions in wildly illegal grifting
king's image on buildings, airports, passports, park passes, coins and $250 bill
whitehouse demolished, fights on front lawn, statues covered in gold while people can't get healthcare or even food
people arrested and prosecuted at great expense then quietly dismissed
all normalized somehow without mass outrage
America has yet to learn the same lesson, but has been on the road there for a decade now.
So at the same time we saw a mass increase in border crossings we were also collecting their DNA? That's a huge number.