I highly encourage anyone e.g. on MacOS to get a cheap laptop and give Omarchy a try. My feeling of using this system compared to MacOS is a whole another level. And now one of the promises of Omarchy Quattro is that AI agents will help you tweak it to your liking very easily, avoiding having to spend dozens of hours ricing your system.
Yeah I must admit that Linux is good for us young people and it's certainly getting some more mass appeal. I have been a linux evangelist within my group and although there are a lot of things to complain in the world that we have inherited as the next generation, linux isn't one of them but rather the lack of knowledge about Linux (of how so many people don't know about it) might be it, which is the reason why I have tried to generally promote Linux.
although I am on a mac now but I love Linux and I love it so much :)
It was fun talking in college to one of my friends about how my PC used to boot from start in 3-5 seconds. (I was using archlinux + systemd boot manager, it was fast to boot!)
I have read some Hackernews comment which went into more details of some issues in Linux of the time that you mention. I must admit that compared to it, its a smooth sail now and I wish to thank everyone within the open source contributing to it. What I and my generation/maybe next might be taking for granted is created from the sweet laborious efforts within Open source for the whole ecosystem (not just Linux, but rather KDE, Gnome,Hyprland, open source applications which support Linux and are actually becoming some really great tools, the list is just endless)
I installed Arch from scratch. Honestly, other than a couple of minor "squirrel catchers" associated with disk formatting it isn't that big of a deal. You don't have to be a graybeard monk to use Linux - Omarchy or not.
I did as well a bunch of times but it's annoying to maintain those installations after a while (particularly if you use WM and not a DE) even if it's not especially difficult. I don't use Arch anymore so it's not for me, but Omarchy has a legitimate use case even if I don't really get what the 8 million is supposed to be for.
It was (pretty much) just dot files and curated software, although I think that description downplays the value of having a perfectly tuned system out of the box - like saying a log cabin is just a bunch of sticks. The assembly matters and the end result is something greater than the sum of its parts.
That aside, the latest release (Quattro) has also added a bunch of bespoke software (technically quickshell configuration, if you don't want to call it software) which has added a new layer of polish. For my taste it has been a real joy to use and a lot of fun to explore and play around with. Could be worth checking out if you haven't looked in a while!
Not a user, but from what I gather it does stuff like synchronize themes of ALL applications across the OS.
So when you change the "omarchy" theme to something, every single application installed uses the same theme. They even paid money to get proper theming support added to software so they could do this.
Noob friendly, I believe was the implication. Perhaps an implication that on average, the young are more attracted to the surface level ui features that omarchy amplifies, and the easyness of the installation. For us older heads, we also got into linux quite young, but there were not options for easy install, so the install was an integral part of the process that forced you to somewhat deeply learn your machine inside and out, and for me at least, that became a huge part of the appeal. Anecdotally, when i did my first install off a red hat disc in 1995 at age 14, i could not figure out how to configure xwindows so i just gave up and spent 4 solid years in the terminal. This was a formative experience in my life, and one that I would have missed out on if i started with omarchy.
However, if it helps to move Linux into the mainstream desktop choice. I'm all for it. Obviously I won't be using it any time soon - but if some rich dudes want to throw millions into marketing and getting Linux mainstream, seems like a net positive to me.
Switching to Omarchy was one of the best decisions I made last year that improved my everyday computing experience so much, and introduced me to so many amazing tools like neovim, tmux, tiling window managers, Arch Linux, and countless TUIs.. Haven't touched my old MacBook this year at all.
If you're in the market for a new laptop / operating system, I highly recommend you give it a try.
Dual boot, it's not exactly the same as the main Omarchy, but it works fine out of the box. Software can be limited because not many packages has been compiled for ARM but we are software developers ;)
Almost always you can get the PKGBUILD file from either Arch Linux Gitlab or the AUR gitlab and just add the aarch64 version of the package to it and then install from that. I have an M1 and M2 macbook airs that I use for home/work and I think the only package I've actually hit a hard stop on is discord, everything else can just be built from source if they don't have a bin version..
which laptop do you recommend, though? i type this on an m4 air that i wish i didnt buy; but i love its keyboard. i havea. t480s and do not like its keyboard...
The high end one that's recommended is the New Dell XPS 14 that essentially looks like Macbook Pro. Also Michael Dell is a notable supporter of Omarchy, so hopefully that means some good support and stability.
> Also Michael Dell is a notable supporter of Omarchy
Ah yes, like NVIDIA having good support and stability on Linux for many many decades at this point because Jensen is a fan of Linux :)
Don't purchase equipment and gear based on potential future support, vote properly with your wallet once things are supported instead, this is the only way these for-profit companies listen, and even that sometimes don't work. But don't go by what the CEO supposedly "supports" based on financial backing, it means little today.
DGX Spark and DGX Station ship with Ubuntu, every server they make runs linux, microsoft had to add gpu support to wsl because everything nvidia ai related works only on linux
nVidia has provided feature parity for their GPUs between Windows and Linux for longer than even fglrx was a thing.
Just because they don't give you all their source on command doesn't mean they weren't supporting Linux for decades. They were the only GPU that even worked halfway on Linux (and BSD) for a long time.
I've been using ThinkPad E14 (AMD Ryzen 7, 16GB RAM, 512 SSD) - very happy with it. No problems with performance, battery, etc. at all. The new Dell XPS 13/14/16 is also good. Just get one with Windows and wipe it clean when installing Linux.
I am running it on the Framework 13 and 16. Both are awesome devices, but I'm partial to the 16. Beautiful screen, great keyboard, and I can easily swap in an NVIDIA card when I want.
Battery life isn't the best in this beast. I'd love to try a Dell Panther Lake laptop and may end up with one in the near future. DHH reports Apple Silicon-ish battery life.
"what the malleable computer of the future looks like" ??? Excuse me? This is just a linux shell script repository. What is the point of having $8m to maintain a shell script?
Might be shocking, but entirely true: They might have shared secret and private plans of what they're building to investors (donators?), where "malleable computer" is a part of those plans, and the full 100% implementation might not be in the source repository at this very moment. Just a guess from my side though, who knows, maybe shellscripts are what they see as malleable computers?
Omarchy Quattro is pretty dang good. It's a lot more than any shell script I've written, certainly. If you've written a more complex one I'd love to see it.
Having agents in the default environment, having everything configurable through text files, and having default agents automatically file bug reports on crashes - these are tangible quality of life improvements that you can't get on other systems.
Maybe Windows and MacOS should write some shell scripts.
My understanding is that it only goes to Omarchy, and only with explicit permission from the user, so maybe "automatically" is a misnomer - but the diagnosis process feels very snappy
> It's a lot more than any shell script I've written, certainly. If you've written a more complex one I'd love to see it.
I've been maintaining https://github.com/nickjj/dotfriedrice for around 8 years, it's my dotfiles that have an installer, theming and other things. I'd still absolutely classify this is a shell script / dotfiles project. I've added just enough customization to make it easy to modify most things without needing to fork the repo.
I only added a GUI last year after my hardware was finally compatible with native Linux, otherwise I would have switched almost 10 years ago. Before that, it focused on command line tools and your terminal, that's because I ran it under Windows with WSL 2 but it also worked fine on native Linux even back then, macOS too because I use it on a company issued laptop.
All that to say, I don't see it as anything special. It's a batteries included dotfiles, nothing more nothing less. With that said, I'm thrilled by the environment it's allowed me to create and niri is so good. I wish I could get $8 million dollars in funding, because I'd give $7 million of that to the author of niri.
Cool! I used Larbs.xyz for a while. I love a good dotfiles repo.
I guess I think there's a lot more in Omarchy than a dotfiles repo, I was very impressed with the demo video. Even just creating the menu and updating system is non-trivial. Mirroring the entire distro through Cloudflare seems significant also. I've not seen those in another dotfiles project.
Yep, I also handle updates, some menus and generally everything to 1 shot a full system and keep it healthy. There's a 90 minute demo video. Not a lot of interest in rolling my own ISO though, I think running the arch install script directly or CachyOS if you want to use that instead is a feature. It lets you do basic things like easily create multiple users on your system, choose encryption or not, pick ext4 instead of btrfs, dual booting and other things at your discretion.
Or you could sit back and run through the installer in 5 minutes by following the guide without any background knowledge and get a working result.
Depends where that funding goes towards, a lot of far right grifters in the linux sphere hate many projects in the linux desktop ecosystem (freedesktop, xorg, systemd, gnome, kde)
If it's a cheap, why hasn't someone else done this at this consistency? Where are the other distros easily applying a theme to basically everything on your system for example? It ships a custom theme builder Aether, Quickshell to build desktop ui elements, a new launcher and its own cli.
Your straw man is rather weak. Would you like to try again? This isn't a distro. Distros build software, maintain packages, fix bugs, support kernel versions.
The $8m would have been better spent on giving it to Arch directly than this grifty pretty face.
Talking a out the definition of a Linux distro is like debating whether or not to say GNU/Linux. If that's what you're into, more power to you. Not into that myself.
I'd appreciated them becoming regular supporters to Arch via donations though. Hope that'll happen.
I'm more excited to get up and use my computer on Omarchy. Working on it feels more like a video game where I have to solve fun puzzles everyday.
I run it on a Framework Laptop 12, an old MBP, and a recently built gaming PC (VR primarily). There are tradeoffs, but I haven't enjoyed working on computers this much since the 2010 era, first learning to build web apps with Ruby on Rails. The distro is merely 6 gigs and takes minutes to install. And the video DHH just released Quattro with is worth a watch to get a feel for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fe9pa8OeE
Lots of negativity in this post. As someone who is an engineer and not a software engineer, this has improved my technical capability tremendously by giving me training wheels and removed decision paralysis because there's so much crap out there and everyone is so opinionated. I don't have time to try out pi and herdr and opencode and codex...
insofar as this gets people off macos/windows and onto linux, especially among younger people where macos has managed to hold on to the position of a default that developers are comfortable e.g. being the only platform they support, this is a good thing imo
the fact that it's largely hype-driven is par for the course for how things work these days
Does anyone have experience with Dell XPS / Omarchy/Arch and docking stations? I've had a lot of trouble getting it to work reliably with my ThinkPad. I'd switch if I knew it was plug and play on Arch/Omarchy.
The better takeaway is that marketing is important and the technical details, don't always matter as much (https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/) as having a complete package. Similarly to how Apple often packages existing tech into an appealing package for the mass market and there's nothing wrong with that.
DHH has the gift that he's both a good technologist, but also a good marketer.
It was not my intention to say that, I'm actually following it very closely and think Omarchy is a great way to get more people on Linux. A user friendly, pre-packaged and opinionated setup will convince more people than "Install Ubuntu and then learn how to administer Linux").
more like DHH is worth that much. unlike the sister comment, i don't think it is marketing alone, if at all, but rather DHH networking and connections. it might be marketing in the sense that the people funding this believe that DHH is able to attract a lot of people. which is interesting given that he also has attracted some controversy recently.
So this is announcement. I was thinking if it is going to be Omarchy Server edition. But reading the names of all founding members I can see why it is worth the hype.
I guess for now most people will be trying Omarchy on their old PC laptops. Especially when new one is expensive. It would be great if there are certain test case or certification to make sure given laptops works with Omarchy.
I don't think there has been anything close to Omarchy for Linux Desktop momentum. ChromeOS isn't one because most of it usage is like a consumption devices appliance used for education. And those Download numbers and Internet video views seems to back it up.
There are roughly 30 - 50M professional software developers, I wouldn't be surprised if it is closer to 100M if we include hobbyist and other adjacent roles. Even if it is 10% of this market is a sizeable trunk.
On the other hand it is sad to witness the birth of Omarchy is precisely because of Apple macOS, iOS and its software ecosystem. I hope we have more senior leadership changes in the coming months once John is officially CEO.
I imagine things like central Auth directory (eg. LDAP), central service for installer / image syncing, device managements, and other enterprise features.
It's still being hashed out (publicly! On X, Discord, and GH issues), but I imagine it will have an opinionated focus on modern container, CI, and deployment options (eg. Kamal)
Running your apps on the same OS you develop on... I mean, you could ask the same question for anything. What's the point? There is no point except someone wanting it..
> On the other hand it is sad to witness the birth of Omarchy is precisely because of Apple macOS, iOS and its software ecosystem.
I'm not sad at all, this is great news. I'm only bummed that the install path for Omarchy on Mac isn't easier, but money like this may change that. Apple has been stagnant in this department for years and its high time they faced some thought-leadership competition on OS UX. They brought this on themselves and I wholeheartedly welcome efforts like this.
Omarchy is built on Arch and there is a flavor of Asahi for Arch as well, so there's no reason it couldn't support the same hardware that Asahi does, just that someone needs to do the work.
Even then, Asahi is understaffed and a volunteer project following a hard and software product blackbox that's changing annually with little public documentation. I think M2s just got external monitor support via USB just recently.
It's been going slow because they have been focusing on cleaning up their patches and getting them upstream into the mainline kernel. Once that is done work on other hardware will speed up.
Apple does not represent the average developer, they hamstrung macOS for petty reasons. There's no NTFS support, no official Vulkan support, broken/outdated CUDA/Mesa GPU drivers, and no modern UEFI or documented devicetree drivers. If Intel or Microsoft did this to their customers, we would be partying in the streets when their hardware died. There would be mass protests against the idea that a company could impose that level of anti-competitive restriction on their users.
The sadness is that the developer landscape is so insecure and tribal. We could have ditched macOS decades ago if people weren't defending Apple's indefensible decisions.
If you're concerned about Apple's relationship to the Trump administration, it seems a bit odd not to mention DHH has much more discriminatory views and is not afraid to voice them loudly: https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/11/06/dhh-and-omarchy-...
Keep in mind that this is a blog post by someone who obviously doesn't like dhh very much, going so far as to prime everyone into reading exactly what he wants them to read instead of just linking to his posts. Basically every sentence just reeks of disgust for someone having a different opinion.
I would never publish something like this on community infrastructure that I'm contributing to. Shameful.
> Basically every sentence just reeks of disgust for someone having a different opinion.
I don't really get that impression. A lot of DHH's blogposts are simply delusion, and have no bearing on reality whatsoever. Posts like his Calling someone a "nazi" is a permission slip for violence is simply untrue no matter who you are or where you live. Discrediting that type of opinion doesn't require you to disagree at all, just to point out local laws to people.
There are likely places where the OP and DHH disagree on matters of pure opinion. But calling his essays "the worst possible takes" is pretty close to objectively true when he's calling for violent witch hunts against the people who disagree with him. He's the one that needs to apologize, there's nothing wrong with drawing the line at violent threats on behalf of your community.
I don't know man, when I lived in a rather big city, I saw lots of stickers everywhere inciting violence towards Nazis, the people I used to hang around with adopted that lingo over the years and just scrolling through Mastodon I see a lot of foamy mouths whenever some masked dude attacks someone they perceive to be a nazi. Another example is some "nobody " (as in not some influencer or something) whom I don't know personally but he probably didn't throw a stone into his own window after he was interviewed in some live stream about his critical views on migration at a public protest. You have a lot of crazy people on all sides and the more you devalue certain terminology until it applies to a broad spectrum of people, it becomes a way to dehumanize them in the eyes of a certain group and all it needs for violence to erupt is one loose canon in a mental health crisis.
> Posts like his Calling someone a "nazi" is a permission slip for violence is simply untrue no matter who you are or where you live.
It is simply true. Lots of people think it’s okay to punch nazis. There was a whole public debate about that around 7 years ago when a famous nazi got punched. The phrase “punch a nazi” got quite popular after that.
Yeah, it's not like fully agree with the guy or the fact that he posted it, but it is kind of stupid to call this piece of writing "shameful" while trying to defend someone who bring andrew tate as a positive example to convey his message. At least be fair and label both as shameful.
Nah, if you're fine with people getting debanked for having opinions you disagree with, that's shameful.
DHH on Andrew Tate btw:
> You don't have to like any of Andrew Tate's takes on men, women, wealth, or the world to see that this modern, coordinated unperson campaign against his "wicked words" is crazy. It's also likely to be counterproductive. I'd literally never heard of Andrew Tate until he got banned. Now he's everywhere, and has a credible martyr role to drape his spiel in.
Lol, so you went from "this guy is a pedo" to "this guy is loosely associated with something that's associated with something else that a felon volunteers on"
that guy is a debian developer first and foremost from reading his contributions that ends up volunteering to do other projects releases to ease up debian. He was/is hired by ubuntu to maintain packages on the desktop.
So according to you, all debian developers and contributions are pedos. Take your meds.
>that guy is a debian developer first and foremost from reading his contributions that ends up volunteering to do other projects releases to ease up debian.
False, he was a Canonical employee that was on the Desktop team concentrating on GNOME. He and alatiera (the pedo-bar linked blog) worked together.
>So according to you, all debian developers and contributions are pedos.
They worked closely together on the same team. Closer than Trump and Epstein.
>Take your meds.
"Take your meds" the leftist chortled after claiming men can be pregnant and defending pedophiles. Take your rope pedo.
>that guy is a debian developer first and foremost from reading his contributions that ends up volunteering to do other projects releases to ease up debian.
False, he was a Canonical employee that was on the Desktop team concentrating on GNOME. He and alatiera (the pedo-bar linked GNOME blog) worked together.
>So according to you, all debian developers and contributions are pedos.
They worked closely together on the same team. Closer than Trump and Epstein.
>Take your meds.
"Take your meds" the leftist chortled after claiming men can be pregnant and defending pedophiles. Take your rope pedo.
I heard about omarchy a while ago but didn't think it was this big !
I am proudly a Bazzite user, and honestly I think for the average end user an immutable atomic distro is better, but more money to the Linux desktop is always a win !
I have seen Omarchy to rapidly accept PRs that make it available and fully functional on older hardware. I think this is a very exciting progress even when I'm not into tiling DEs.
> I don't think there has been anything close to Omarchy for Linux Desktop momentum
Dunno, Ubuntu had a lot of hype back in the day. It just kind of died out when Canonical had to start making money.
But yeah, it's nice to see the Omarchy hype. Especially since it's been marketed from the start as something for developers and not necessarily for your mom or grandparents.
I still have some of those free dvds ubuntu was sending out. But unlike then, nowadays i can actually watch a video on linux without tearing with sound and over working wifi and as of couple years ago even scroll a webpage without tearing
I installed Omarchy on an old laptop yesterday and was impressed with the smooth installation. The UI is definitely a different approach, I can see any developer who prefers the keyboard to the mouse would love it.
Good to see some innovation. Desktop Linux feels like it has been stalled for years and needs new ideas.
Also, having an AI to pre-flight compatibility issues and help with UEFI and BIOS configs makes life so much more pleasant.
Was about to sell the parts of my old Haswell Hackintosh which I did replace with a M1 Mac Mini a couple of years ago after 10 years in use, but now I might just dust off my old Lian Li case build it back together for Omarchy as my dev and tinker machine. Still has double the RAM of my Mini..
Can someone explain why I (a relatively Linux-naive engineer) would use Omarchy over Ubuntu or other popular distros? I'd like to take a look, but i'm having the hardest time understanding the value proposition.
In my opinion, you wouldnt. You might sooner pick up a distro like Arch (which is what Omarchy uses; it is not a distro in itself) if you want to imperatively manage everything, or NixOS with basic hyprland or Plasma or COSMIC config, etc., and then you can declaratively handle your dots and config.
Either of these routes would teach you more about Linux and give you the ability to build a simple desktop for your needs.
Your solution applies to people who want to tinker for the sake of tinkering. Not to the people/engineers who want to get stuff done, easily and efficiently.
For Arch, I would agree. Things break in mysterious ways and you may spend days tinkering to get a stable system. NixOS is entirely different. Once you get it working how you want, its set and forget. There are tons of simple set ups like this out there, often relying on some combo of WM + "Desktop shell" (noctalia, caelestia, etc) or simply using a fully baked DE. Using something like that cuts out the tinkering and lets you start on whatever work you are doing right away.
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My opinion is that I think that cachyos is a much more suitable option over omarchy.
Personally out of so many of the distros that I have tried including Omarchy, I found Cachyos to be somewhat perfectly balanced (atleast for me).
So I highly recommend Cachyos if you haven't already!
(On a side note: Fedora is something that I wish to try a bit more as well to be honest and for servers, I mostly use debian/ubuntu or alpine)
although I am on a mac now but I love Linux and I love it so much :)
It was fun talking in college to one of my friends about how my PC used to boot from start in 3-5 seconds. (I was using archlinux + systemd boot manager, it was fast to boot!)
I have read some Hackernews comment which went into more details of some issues in Linux of the time that you mention. I must admit that compared to it, its a smooth sail now and I wish to thank everyone within the open source contributing to it. What I and my generation/maybe next might be taking for granted is created from the sweet laborious efforts within Open source for the whole ecosystem (not just Linux, but rather KDE, Gnome,Hyprland, open source applications which support Linux and are actually becoming some really great tools, the list is just endless)
Thanks!
Nobody has given me a reason to move of Fedora Atomics.
That aside, the latest release (Quattro) has also added a bunch of bespoke software (technically quickshell configuration, if you don't want to call it software) which has added a new layer of polish. For my taste it has been a real joy to use and a lot of fun to explore and play around with. Could be worth checking out if you haven't looked in a while!
So when you change the "omarchy" theme to something, every single application installed uses the same theme. They even paid money to get proper theming support added to software so they could do this.
A bit beyond "dotfiles" IMO.
And doesn't this strike you as a little juvenile, and missing the point of the Linux application ecosystem?
Always been true, extra true for people who are "famous" in their niche(s).
No?
However, if it helps to move Linux into the mainstream desktop choice. I'm all for it. Obviously I won't be using it any time soon - but if some rich dudes want to throw millions into marketing and getting Linux mainstream, seems like a net positive to me.
If you're in the market for a new laptop / operating system, I highly recommend you give it a try.
https://github.com/malik-na/omarchy-mac
Dual boot, it's not exactly the same as the main Omarchy, but it works fine out of the box. Software can be limited because not many packages has been compiled for ARM but we are software developers ;)
Ah yes, like NVIDIA having good support and stability on Linux for many many decades at this point because Jensen is a fan of Linux :)
Don't purchase equipment and gear based on potential future support, vote properly with your wallet once things are supported instead, this is the only way these for-profit companies listen, and even that sometimes don't work. But don't go by what the CEO supposedly "supports" based on financial backing, it means little today.
Just because they don't give you all their source on command doesn't mean they weren't supporting Linux for decades. They were the only GPU that even worked halfway on Linux (and BSD) for a long time.
Battery life isn't the best in this beast. I'd love to try a Dell Panther Lake laptop and may end up with one in the near future. DHH reports Apple Silicon-ish battery life.
Having agents in the default environment, having everything configurable through text files, and having default agents automatically file bug reports on crashes - these are tangible quality of life improvements that you can't get on other systems.
Maybe Windows and MacOS should write some shell scripts.
Is this only sending bug reports to Omarchy or to the upstream developers? I'm not sure many of them would be fond of AI slop bug reports en masse.
I've been maintaining https://github.com/nickjj/dotfriedrice for around 8 years, it's my dotfiles that have an installer, theming and other things. I'd still absolutely classify this is a shell script / dotfiles project. I've added just enough customization to make it easy to modify most things without needing to fork the repo.
I only added a GUI last year after my hardware was finally compatible with native Linux, otherwise I would have switched almost 10 years ago. Before that, it focused on command line tools and your terminal, that's because I ran it under Windows with WSL 2 but it also worked fine on native Linux even back then, macOS too because I use it on a company issued laptop.
All that to say, I don't see it as anything special. It's a batteries included dotfiles, nothing more nothing less. With that said, I'm thrilled by the environment it's allowed me to create and niri is so good. I wish I could get $8 million dollars in funding, because I'd give $7 million of that to the author of niri.
I guess I think there's a lot more in Omarchy than a dotfiles repo, I was very impressed with the demo video. Even just creating the menu and updating system is non-trivial. Mirroring the entire distro through Cloudflare seems significant also. I've not seen those in another dotfiles project.
Yep, I also handle updates, some menus and generally everything to 1 shot a full system and keep it healthy. There's a 90 minute demo video. Not a lot of interest in rolling my own ISO though, I think running the arch install script directly or CachyOS if you want to use that instead is a feature. It lets you do basic things like easily create multiple users on your system, choose encryption or not, pick ext4 instead of btrfs, dual booting and other things at your discretion.
Or you could sit back and run through the installer in 5 minutes by following the guide without any background knowledge and get a working result.
See for example Lundukes "Woke Software" list
https://github.com/BryanLunduke/SoftwarePoliticsTracker
The $8m would have been better spent on giving it to Arch directly than this grifty pretty face.
I'd appreciated them becoming regular supporters to Arch via donations though. Hope that'll happen.
I run it on a Framework Laptop 12, an old MBP, and a recently built gaming PC (VR primarily). There are tradeoffs, but I haven't enjoyed working on computers this much since the 2010 era, first learning to build web apps with Ruby on Rails. The distro is merely 6 gigs and takes minutes to install. And the video DHH just released Quattro with is worth a watch to get a feel for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fe9pa8OeE
the fact that it's largely hype-driven is par for the course for how things work these days
DHH has the gift that he's both a good technologist, but also a good marketer.
I guess for now most people will be trying Omarchy on their old PC laptops. Especially when new one is expensive. It would be great if there are certain test case or certification to make sure given laptops works with Omarchy.
I don't think there has been anything close to Omarchy for Linux Desktop momentum. ChromeOS isn't one because most of it usage is like a consumption devices appliance used for education. And those Download numbers and Internet video views seems to back it up.
There are roughly 30 - 50M professional software developers, I wouldn't be surprised if it is closer to 100M if we include hobbyist and other adjacent roles. Even if it is 10% of this market is a sizeable trunk.
On the other hand it is sad to witness the birth of Omarchy is precisely because of Apple macOS, iOS and its software ecosystem. I hope we have more senior leadership changes in the coming months once John is officially CEO.
I'm not sad at all, this is great news. I'm only bummed that the install path for Omarchy on Mac isn't easier, but money like this may change that. Apple has been stagnant in this department for years and its high time they faced some thought-leadership competition on OS UX. They brought this on themselves and I wholeheartedly welcome efforts like this.
Sad for whom? People that get excited paying $99/year to fund Donald Trump's next golden manufacturing trophy? https://www.theverge.com/news/737757/apple-president-donald-...
Apple does not represent the average developer, they hamstrung macOS for petty reasons. There's no NTFS support, no official Vulkan support, broken/outdated CUDA/Mesa GPU drivers, and no modern UEFI or documented devicetree drivers. If Intel or Microsoft did this to their customers, we would be partying in the streets when their hardware died. There would be mass protests against the idea that a company could impose that level of anti-competitive restriction on their users.
The sadness is that the developer landscape is so insecure and tribal. We could have ditched macOS decades ago if people weren't defending Apple's indefensible decisions.
I would never publish something like this on community infrastructure that I'm contributing to. Shameful.
I don't really get that impression. A lot of DHH's blogposts are simply delusion, and have no bearing on reality whatsoever. Posts like his Calling someone a "nazi" is a permission slip for violence is simply untrue no matter who you are or where you live. Discrediting that type of opinion doesn't require you to disagree at all, just to point out local laws to people.
There are likely places where the OP and DHH disagree on matters of pure opinion. But calling his essays "the worst possible takes" is pretty close to objectively true when he's calling for violent witch hunts against the people who disagree with him. He's the one that needs to apologize, there's nothing wrong with drawing the line at violent threats on behalf of your community.
It is simply true. Lots of people think it’s okay to punch nazis. There was a whole public debate about that around 7 years ago when a famous nazi got punched. The phrase “punch a nazi” got quite popular after that.
DHH on Andrew Tate btw:
> You don't have to like any of Andrew Tate's takes on men, women, wealth, or the world to see that this modern, coordinated unperson campaign against his "wicked words" is crazy. It's also likely to be counterproductive. I'd literally never heard of Andrew Tate until he got banned. Now he's everywhere, and has a credible martyr role to drape his spiel in.
So according to you, all debian developers and contributions are pedos. Take your meds.
False, he was a Canonical employee that was on the Desktop team concentrating on GNOME. He and alatiera (the pedo-bar linked blog) worked together.
>So according to you, all debian developers and contributions are pedos.
They worked closely together on the same team. Closer than Trump and Epstein.
>Take your meds.
"Take your meds" the leftist chortled after claiming men can be pregnant and defending pedophiles. Take your rope pedo.
False, he was a Canonical employee that was on the Desktop team concentrating on GNOME. He and alatiera (the pedo-bar linked GNOME blog) worked together.
>So according to you, all debian developers and contributions are pedos.
They worked closely together on the same team. Closer than Trump and Epstein.
>Take your meds.
"Take your meds" the leftist chortled after claiming men can be pregnant and defending pedophiles. Take your rope pedo.
I am proudly a Bazzite user, and honestly I think for the average end user an immutable atomic distro is better, but more money to the Linux desktop is always a win !
Dunno, Ubuntu had a lot of hype back in the day. It just kind of died out when Canonical had to start making money.
But yeah, it's nice to see the Omarchy hype. Especially since it's been marketed from the start as something for developers and not necessarily for your mom or grandparents.
Good to see some innovation. Desktop Linux feels like it has been stalled for years and needs new ideas.
Also, having an AI to pre-flight compatibility issues and help with UEFI and BIOS configs makes life so much more pleasant.
Let's go :)
I don't care if people see it as a hyped-up collection of scripts, it's calm and fun.
https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen
Either of these routes would teach you more about Linux and give you the ability to build a simple desktop for your needs.