No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.
The moral difference here is, of course, that one side has institutionalized child-rape for religious reasons and has imams play pimps for thousands of children forced into prostitution to get raped.
The other side has a bunch of criminals that sometimes succeed in rape and the most famous of whom is now dead rather than confess.
Both are bad. One is a disgusting large-scale moral failing in the religion they follow and will continue without limit, the other is a mistake that was ended by the authorities.
Iran may be the originators of good/evil duality but that doesn't mean we should follow their lead.
Anyway Iran are good enough when we want, we fought alongside them in Afghanistan after 9/11 and against ISIS. Their oil was good enough to (let BP) take 80% of it for 30 years.
Reminds me of a recent story about a Norwegian teenager who traveled to the UK to perform a hitman job for the Foxtrot Network, a Swedish organized crime group linked to Iran. The teenager received instructions from someone called "Agent 47."
Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).
>Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).
I'm so tired of this geopolitical whataboutism.
Once at tech policy happy hour, someone got in my face and demanded I affirm that Israel has a right to exist.
They recoiled as if they'd been physically struck when I shot back "Israel has a right to exist and not do war crimes... just like Saudi Arabia".
(I don't give a fuck if you have dip-lo-mat-ic imm-un-itt-y. I've slapped the soul out of someone in Farragut Square before, and as I sit here looking at the data, I've concluded I'll probably do it again, don't you ever put your fucking hands on me.)
There is no reason to treat the leaders of Israel any different than the leaders of countries like UAE, Qatar, etc.
(And if it was up to me, we'd send all these fascist motherfuckers on a free trip to The Hague.)
The Israeli government has openly and publicly stated they will spread false information and propaganda directly through social media etc, which they heavily control all throughout the west, and have directly threatened western politicians that don't support their (often false) rhetoric, along with themselves conducting terrorist activities outside their own borders.
I'm frankly quite tired of hearing about how terrible the Iranians are (and they are), because the people they are fighting are arguably worse. Iran are a threat to the middle east, but they're fighting nations that are actively a threat to the entire planet.
How are the Israeli and US governments a threat to the entire planet and (arguably) worse than a authoritarian fundamentalist religious regime? If Iran gets a nuke are they more or less likely to use it than the Israelis?
Does Israel heavily control social media throughout the West?
Multiple foreign governments are ruining influence operations. We should be talking about the effects that has on our public sphere, and the existence of Israeli influence operations doesn't mean we handwave away Iranian influence.
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[ 0.24 ms ] story [ 17.8 ms ] threadThe other side has a bunch of criminals that sometimes succeed in rape and the most famous of whom is now dead rather than confess.
Both are bad. One is a disgusting large-scale moral failing in the religion they follow and will continue without limit, the other is a mistake that was ended by the authorities.
One is infinitely worse than other.
Isn't the best friend of the dead one the most famous now?
If written in money it happens almost never. For obvious reasons.
Judge for yourself.
Anyway Iran are good enough when we want, we fought alongside them in Afghanistan after 9/11 and against ISIS. Their oil was good enough to (let BP) take 80% of it for 30 years.
But you're not. No amount of mental gymnastics can help at this point to justify all the evil things USA does around the globe.
And now you are blabbering about "good/bad guys"..
You are just totally nuts, and your place is on the same bench where nazi officials sat after 1945.
EDIT: Article for reference, https://archive.ph/xNSr2.
Could it be because they're really good at it?
but i'll concede some of them were literally nazis
I'm sure they've killed plenty of people in the US and elsewhere as well. Epstein was an Israeli op after all.
I lived in Israel, and know Israel well enough to believe this is true.
I'm so tired of this geopolitical whataboutism.
Once at tech policy happy hour, someone got in my face and demanded I affirm that Israel has a right to exist.
They recoiled as if they'd been physically struck when I shot back "Israel has a right to exist and not do war crimes... just like Saudi Arabia".
(I don't give a fuck if you have dip-lo-mat-ic imm-un-itt-y. I've slapped the soul out of someone in Farragut Square before, and as I sit here looking at the data, I've concluded I'll probably do it again, don't you ever put your fucking hands on me.)
There is no reason to treat the leaders of Israel any different than the leaders of countries like UAE, Qatar, etc.
(And if it was up to me, we'd send all these fascist motherfuckers on a free trip to The Hague.)
Which other countries in the west also do war crimes and where’s the comparable outrage about them?
I'm frankly quite tired of hearing about how terrible the Iranians are (and they are), because the people they are fighting are arguably worse. Iran are a threat to the middle east, but they're fighting nations that are actively a threat to the entire planet.
Does Israel heavily control social media throughout the West?
Multiple foreign governments are ruining influence operations. We should be talking about the effects that has on our public sphere, and the existence of Israeli influence operations doesn't mean we handwave away Iranian influence.