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I would ask how this is legal, but then again, we wouldn't even be here if something being legal or not mattered.
It's no different than promises to increase welfare or cut taxes that politicians routinely make.
Or pay off student loan debt, it's all crooked, both sides.
"Both sides" is such an absurd claim these days.

It's like saying that a murderer and a jaywalker are both criminals, so they're basically the same.

Lol I see you've never met a stallman type (ie your average hn disposition)
You’re right, the “both sides” claim really doesn’t work here.

Biden’s student loan forgiveness would have amounted to a gift of potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars to his most ardent supporters: young, college educated, poor people.

Trump’s proposal is a fraction of that, and all Americans would be eligible. If he’s trying to buy votes, he’s going to need to try a lot harder. This proposal is nothing like Biden’s vote buying scheme.

Have you missed where Trump himself and many of the wealthiest people in the U.S. have had integer multiples of their wealth over just the past couple of years?

> young, college educated, poor people

Oh yea, you're correct, who needs those? Let's feed the 0.01%.

Funny that you wake up and rise only now. Where was you righteous indignation when Republicans promises tax cuts? Can you point me to your contemporary reaction to "no tax on tips"? What made you react only now?
Exactly. And by doing so, we slowly allow jaywalkers to become murderers but still viewed as "oh, it's just another person jaywalking again".
This is much different than that. It's basically a direct bribe.
Yes it is different: he conditioned it on voting for him. And he is not claiming to improve any governmental system to finance this, like other politicians do when they promise welfare or tax cuts: he is saying the money is there, he is the only one who can use it, and whether you get it or not depends on giving him your vote.
It would probably make more difference if it was paid in advance :)

Actually people would have to be an idiot to settle for anything less from Trump.

When you think about it, if Trump genuinely trusted the average American, he would pay in advance.

OTOH, Americans will be able to see if they can trust Trump by whether or not he pays in advance no matter what.

Whoever's paying attention.

Even if legality did matter, the president has criminal immunity for official acts.
The insane SCOTUS ruled that the president could not be held accountable for illegal acts as long as it was deemed official acts of the US.
"The only caveat I have is that the dividend that we're making must be spent in the United States of America."
An incredible stain on the history of the US.
just one question: is it a deeper or shallower stain than slavery, trail of tears, lynchings, nuking japan, vietnam, 1 million dead in the second gulf war, etc etc etc?

lol

It’s a stain precisely because it proves Americans don’t learn from those past stains
Good way to spend $1.3T that this party of fiscal responsibility doesn't have.
If your political opponent is offering free stuff paid from the public purse, while you are offering “fiscal responsibility,” you are guaranteed to lose every election.

This is in large part why Romney lost in 2012 and why no fiscally conservative candidate could beat Trump in the 2016 Republican primary. The average Joe doesn’t want to vote for the “eat your vegetables” candidate.

I hate it but Trump is smart enough to realize that you have to pander like this or you’ll lose. Democrats have historically been the party of “vote for me for more free stuff,” and he’s trying to beat them at their own game.

The end result of these vote buying schemes from both parties will be either a sovereign debt crisis or massive inflation. Maybe both.

> Democrats have historically been the party of “vote for me for more free stuff,"

Democrats are more fiscally responsible than Republicans, consistently, for decades. You're perpetuating a myth, pushed by conservatives, that liberals are "tax and spend".

> these vote buying schemes from both parties

Where do you see vote buying schemes from the Democrat side? The only examples I've seen so far of this in reality are this current scheme, and Elon Musk's scheme last election.

"Both sides" are not equal. Republicans have given up on the rule of law and are actively aiming to eliminate democracy.

The sooner this guy is impeached the better. That's better than letting his term just run out as it offers more of a warning to other fruitcakes out there: the system _eventually_ works.
Been impeached twice. What do you envision a third doing?
Conviction. Removal from office.

Third time’s the charm?

By all means let Senators defend and protect him. Maybe they don't care about their historical reputation

That isn't the way it works, there's no "three strikes" law for Presidents. If all of his extant corruption, clear senility and incompetence, throwing the global economy into chaos tumbling ass over end into an unnecessary war he can't even win and the Epstein stuff didn't get him removed from office, then this won't.

What we need is a form of legal redress more effective than a stern talking to, which is all impeachment amounts to.

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There is a form of legal redress - following through in the senate with impeachment. Trump had sufficient allies in the senate when he was impeached so they dismissed it but if instead they had a 2/3 vote he could've be removed from office.
They gave Trump presidential immunity partly because the remedy for addressing any perceived lawlessness they figured is provided by the impeachment process. If the impeachment process is forclosed as even a possibility, he’s truly immune from any consequences.
This guy loves inflation.
It wouldn’t just monetize the national debt. By inflating away his own debts he might actually become a billionaire.
Everyone wants to know why groceries are so damn expensive, here's your answer. Along with fighting wars that aren't ours.

I really wish Libertarians would actually win.

Libertarians are just conservatives who like weed
Well, conservatives that were actually conservative would be a nice thing to have.
well that, and:

And guns

And no foreign wars

And the right to marry whomever you want or be in a relationship with whomever you want.

And minimal State with demilitarized police.

And leaving you alone to do whatever.

Libertarians should try at a small scale first so that others can see the genius of their ideas, and be more encouraged to vote for them. I hear New Hampshire has towns open to this idea.
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -Alexis De Tocqueville

But turns out it's a fun game for another branch of government too.

Sorry but for the record, that's a frequently repeated but unsourced misattribution. Earliest variant found is from 1951.
Confederate dollars.
I try use my brain to logically approach it:

- 5k are promised in case of x to u.s. adults

Risk: too much adults to divide 5k equally amongst.

It is a quite popular reverse bribe in India. All parties offer something like this, but to particular demographics.

However Trump's promises mean nothing nowadays.

That’s one way to get enough money to buy automatic weapons and a pretty stash of ammo to all the capitol loving patrioters, after they blew up his slush fund.

Glad the law doesn’t count for the King, otherwise he would be in trouble.

The president’s Autopen though is going into overdrive signing all the pardons for every American who actually took the 5k.

Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was wilful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

- https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597

So I’ve got a DOGE check coming, a tariff check, and now this. If I don’t get these, I don’t have to pay taxes right? Is that how it works? It’s hard to keep up.
18 U.S. Code § 597

Not that that matters when you make it up as you go.