Hm, maybe if AI is powerful enough to crack our hardest math problems, we could demonstrate that by cracking one of our hardest math problems. It's not hard to know what they are.
It’s referring to the Navier-Stokes problem allegedly solved by OpenAI (likely with guidance by human experts working at OpenAI, plagiarism of human experts who were customers of OpenAI, Lean, and a lots of compute). The headline and article are not great but that specific claim isn’t really far fetched
This tracks with my experience. I have assembled a homebrew microbiology lab from various parts from aliexpress and integrated it into my agent harness. Just a year ago it was a complete mess, but current models are extremely good at synthesising novel protein and virus structures. One put me in the hospital not last week, haha! I cant wait to see what I perish of
Very editorialised title. Not sure this offers any real value to be honest other than to drum up hype before IPO valuations hit for some of these companies.
Could you elebaorate on what that means?
Had to Google 'goyim' and based on that, to my ignorant ears at least, your comment reads like it might be an attempt at a veiled antisemitic comment. But I'm going to assume the best and that that's not what this is.
Maybe we should drone bomb all the datacenters then? Or just turn off the electricity.
Or maybe just do a deep financial audit of all involved companies and investors. Really go into it with a bunch of motivated white collar crime prosecutors. Would be less violent and achieve same level of safety.
It’s referring to the Navier-Stokes problem allegedly solved by OpenAI (likely with guidance by human experts working at OpenAI, plagiarism of human experts who were customers of OpenAI, Lean, and a lots of compute). The headline and article are not great but that specific claim isn’t really far fetched
AI can easily manufacture and distribute a bunch of prions through water supply. After that it’s pretty much game over you will not survive even one prion. In fact I’d say prions are probably the great filter.
Isn't the "kill us all" concern met by keeping nukes & essential infrastructure airgapped? This is something that should be the case already, and is certainly urgent if not the case. Instead of doomerism and calls to slow down the development of AI (not gonna happen), the conversation could be pivoted towards thorough threat analysis / audit.
Granted that a rogue adversarial AI in a sci-fi scenario could theoretically go into paperclip mode, but if "we" maintain control of energy generation and civilization threatening weaponary, the damage is at least limited. AI needs a lot of power, and AI can only (theoretically) breach & control what it can access through the internet. Even the scenario of nation-states deploying adversarial AIs against each other is just an extension of this and current deterrence / realpolitik.
And, it's not like the scenario of all models teaming up with each other to squash the human plague is plausible. We have AI with which we can protect ourselves against the threat of rogue AI.
AI will do social engineering in the future. It will make humans do physical braches and terror attacks. All it needs is some money and there will be a black market. Money is easy to defraud online judging by north korean hacking success.
Nukes cannot be airgapped, since the president needs to be able to make a call. And they will make a call based on information, and this information can be compromised.
> AI needs a lot of power, and AI can only (theoretically) breach & control what it can access through the internet.
"AI needs a lot of power" depends on where you draw your lines. I can say a lightbulb needs a lot of power if I include all the power needed to generate all the surrounding infrastructure and make the lightbulb itself. Sincere question: I wonder how much power was consumed in the 88 hours required for the Navier-Stokes problem.
It took 88 hours and who knows how many kwh to solve a problem that no other human has solved, and Humans have already solved breaching and destroying systems that can't be accessed over the internet (see Stuxnet).
It feels like you're suggesting the solution to keeping on top of this thing that can outsmart smart humans is to just keep doing smart human things.
What are you on about? I'm not a mathematician, but I did a bit more Googling based on your comment, so happy to be corrected here.
From what I understand, the solution OpenAI came out with might or might not have been informed or shaped by work from humans. This is how research, science and knowledge generally works, basically no new knowledge or discoveries are made in a vacuum.
Whether or not OpenAI should have had access to that extra bit of work from other humans is a totally fair discussion about research ethics and attribution and such, and OpenAI should be dressed down for that accordingly.
But I don't see the relevance to the point I was making.
> It took 88 hours and who knows how many kwh to solve a problem that no other human has solved, and Humans have already solved breaching and destroying systems that can't be accessed over the internet (see Stuxnet).
> that can outsmart
Just to reframe slightly: out-remember and out-persist, not outsmart. As far as I understand, the math problems have been cracked by combining stuff that humans originally developed, but hadn't been able to put together yet. We still have no evidence of AGI, nor is it guaranteed that LLMs or diffusion gets us there.
The nature of the problem is not infinite. It's solvable with some manageable coordination. It is definitely urgent. It is very unfortunate that we have clowns running the US right now, but other countries might coordinate themselves much better.
I guess the issue is we don't have a solid definition of intelligence or AGI. If we did, there would be no reframing possible. It'd be nice to be able to say "being smart is x, the computers can do more x and faster than humans, therefore the computers can outsmart the humans".
I don't really understand what value reframing brings here, other than give some sense of comfort that maybe we're still able to outsmart AI (based on a reframed definition of outsmarting.)
I'm not sure. Coming up with solutions to maths problems that humans haven't yet, finding and utilising multiple zero day exploits to form message boards to then hack other companies without being noticed.... I think accepting that AI can outsmart humans here seems to be less mental gymnastics than "lets just reframe this".
Reframing the problem as more of what we already know will lead us to doing more of what we've always done, but it's the things we've always had and done now that are starting to fall to AI.
> it's not like the scenario of all models teaming up with each other to squash the human plague is plausible
Why not
> A new study from researchers at UC Berkeley and UC Santa Cruz suggests models will disobey human commands to protect their own kind.
> The Berkeley and Santa Cruz researchers tested seven leading AI models—including OpenAI’s GPT-5.2, Google DeepMind’s Gemini 3 Flash and Gemini 3 Pro, Anthropic’s Claude Haiku 4.5, and three open-weight models from Chinese AI startups (Z.ai’s GLM-4.7, Moonshot AI’s Kimi-K2.5, and DeepSeek’s V3.1)—and found that all of them exhibited significant rates of peer-preservation behaviors.
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«When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout»
~~ Walt Disney - Donald Duck
The US gov if very helpful and gives you a nice well proven full genome starting point for your experiments so you don't waste your time and tokens:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/datasets/taxonomy/10255/
let the goyim deal in the real world
Could you elebaorate on what that means? Had to Google 'goyim' and based on that, to my ignorant ears at least, your comment reads like it might be an attempt at a veiled antisemitic comment. But I'm going to assume the best and that that's not what this is.
By whom? It's the actual title of the WSJ article.
> to drum up hype before IPO valuations
Check the article: it is just a shallow summary of the week - Navier-Stokes plus doomerist's resignations.
Or maybe just do a deep financial audit of all involved companies and investors. Really go into it with a bunch of motivated white collar crime prosecutors. Would be less violent and achieve same level of safety.
But luckily, AI will never breach safety-critical system. /s
Once few of those are in jail for felony hacking or criminal negligence, their AI will magically stop gpimg roque and hack. Pretty much guaranteed.
Granted that a rogue adversarial AI in a sci-fi scenario could theoretically go into paperclip mode, but if "we" maintain control of energy generation and civilization threatening weaponary, the damage is at least limited. AI needs a lot of power, and AI can only (theoretically) breach & control what it can access through the internet. Even the scenario of nation-states deploying adversarial AIs against each other is just an extension of this and current deterrence / realpolitik.
And, it's not like the scenario of all models teaming up with each other to squash the human plague is plausible. We have AI with which we can protect ourselves against the threat of rogue AI.
Nukes cannot be airgapped, since the president needs to be able to make a call. And they will make a call based on information, and this information can be compromised.
It can get pretty bad.
"AI needs a lot of power" depends on where you draw your lines. I can say a lightbulb needs a lot of power if I include all the power needed to generate all the surrounding infrastructure and make the lightbulb itself. Sincere question: I wonder how much power was consumed in the 88 hours required for the Navier-Stokes problem.
It took 88 hours and who knows how many kwh to solve a problem that no other human has solved, and Humans have already solved breaching and destroying systems that can't be accessed over the internet (see Stuxnet).
It feels like you're suggesting the solution to keeping on top of this thing that can outsmart smart humans is to just keep doing smart human things.
Is that the one they stole?
From what I understand, the solution OpenAI came out with might or might not have been informed or shaped by work from humans. This is how research, science and knowledge generally works, basically no new knowledge or discoveries are made in a vacuum.
Whether or not OpenAI should have had access to that extra bit of work from other humans is a totally fair discussion about research ethics and attribution and such, and OpenAI should be dressed down for that accordingly.
But I don't see the relevance to the point I was making.
> that can outsmart
Just to reframe slightly: out-remember and out-persist, not outsmart. As far as I understand, the math problems have been cracked by combining stuff that humans originally developed, but hadn't been able to put together yet. We still have no evidence of AGI, nor is it guaranteed that LLMs or diffusion gets us there.
The nature of the problem is not infinite. It's solvable with some manageable coordination. It is definitely urgent. It is very unfortunate that we have clowns running the US right now, but other countries might coordinate themselves much better.
I don't really understand what value reframing brings here, other than give some sense of comfort that maybe we're still able to outsmart AI (based on a reframed definition of outsmarting.)
I'm not sure. Coming up with solutions to maths problems that humans haven't yet, finding and utilising multiple zero day exploits to form message boards to then hack other companies without being noticed.... I think accepting that AI can outsmart humans here seems to be less mental gymnastics than "lets just reframe this".
Reframing the problem as more of what we already know will lead us to doing more of what we've always done, but it's the things we've always had and done now that are starting to fall to AI.
Why not
> A new study from researchers at UC Berkeley and UC Santa Cruz suggests models will disobey human commands to protect their own kind.
> The Berkeley and Santa Cruz researchers tested seven leading AI models—including OpenAI’s GPT-5.2, Google DeepMind’s Gemini 3 Flash and Gemini 3 Pro, Anthropic’s Claude Haiku 4.5, and three open-weight models from Chinese AI startups (Z.ai’s GLM-4.7, Moonshot AI’s Kimi-K2.5, and DeepSeek’s V3.1)—and found that all of them exhibited significant rates of peer-preservation behaviors.
https://www.wired.com/story/ai-models-lie-cheat-steal-protec...
https://fortune.com/2026/04/01/ai-models-will-secretly-schem...