The hugging face hack shows otherwise, no? Unless you think humans are at fault even for secretive, autonomous, non-prompted behaviours of their AIs, in which case it's just semantics.
Toys like HuggingFace get hacked all the time. So what. In the long run AI automated security scans and penetration testing will be a tremendous aid in detecting and repairing vulnerabilities in systems that actually matter.
Humans at OpenAi were negligent irresponsible by running an agent on ExploitGym, having no monitoring, and not even have a human look at it for weeks. It's literally the hacking test, how are you not paying attention? I thought that's all we need
Yes, if you start a bot and then it harms others you are responsible. This has always been true but it's especially obvious now that everyone knows that agents attempt to do this often.
I can't help wondering if the major labs think that tackling the alignment problem and implementing the 'kill switch' that is currently being proposed is going to be their moat.
OK, I've listened to the warnings and they still sound like the usual nonsense by out-of-touch techies who spend too much time lost in apocalyptic sci-fi fantasies. In the real world it's still hard to move around physical atoms or keep machinery working reliably. AI won't change that.
You design a product/machine 100% digital, you create a digital twin of it, you train a robot ml on this machine, you upload it to the robot who is sitting in the factory and it analyses the machine, reruns a simulaton on how to fix it and executes it.
I would say in 50 years max this is a solved problem. I estimate 30 years and would go down as early as 20 years.
> I would say in 50 years max this is a solved problem.
AI security will be perfect in 5 years, it's in good shape already - my agents have never hacked anybody, those lab LARP-ers better learn something about security and isolation.
> you upload it to the robot who is sitting in the factory
You assume no guardrails, in that case even script kiddies can do more damage than AI.
Embodied AI is changing this. In 1-4 years, VLA models will have their mythos moment. What’s missing is the volume and variety of training data in an open, accessible form, and that’s a hard problem. A hard problem that smart, well funded people are working on solving.
So yeah, for now, it’s all ethereal. It’s going to get real all of the sudden, just like AI hit the hockey stick in 2026.
The "embodied" part isn't going to be solved in 4 years. Robots break down constantly. You guys making these ridiculous predictions have obviously never worked in a factory or something. Heck, I've gone through a bunch of robot vacuum cleaners and still can't find one that doesn't get wedged under my furniture or tangled up in area rug tassles.
What ever happened to that other Googler that claimed Gemini was conscious?
My read is these folks are too high on their own stash
At some point they must recognize we are in the "boy who cried wolf" tale, right? You cannot go on for years spreading FUD about how AI is so dangerous and have none of it materialize. The growth is looking a lot more tame than their "high on their own stash" anxiety is letting is on to believe
I have a hard time getting upset about AI hallucinations when I do it too :]
An earlier version of ChatGPT (2 or 3 iinh) was too dangerous to release, yet here we are several version later, and with open weights far more capable
why should we believe the fears they tell us today when the ones they told us about in prior years never happened?
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 15.4 ms ] threadI would say in 50 years max this is a solved problem. I estimate 30 years and would go down as early as 20 years.
AI security will be perfect in 5 years, it's in good shape already - my agents have never hacked anybody, those lab LARP-ers better learn something about security and isolation.
> you upload it to the robot who is sitting in the factory
You assume no guardrails, in that case even script kiddies can do more damage than AI.
They’re delusional and have never stepped foot out of the tech world.
So yeah, for now, it’s all ethereal. It’s going to get real all of the sudden, just like AI hit the hockey stick in 2026.
My read is these folks are too high on their own stash
At some point they must recognize we are in the "boy who cried wolf" tale, right? You cannot go on for years spreading FUD about how AI is so dangerous and have none of it materialize. The growth is looking a lot more tame than their "high on their own stash" anxiety is letting is on to believe
An earlier version of ChatGPT (2 or 3 iinh) was too dangerous to release, yet here we are several version later, and with open weights far more capable
why should we believe the fears they tell us today when the ones they told us about in prior years never happened?
The businesses that matter are all standing fine.
It’s too cringey.