Launch HN: Coverage Cat (YC S22) – Umbrella insurance via your personal agent (coveragecat.com)

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Hey HN! We’re Max and Gabriel the co-founders of Coverage Cat. We’ve been friends for over a decade, met in college then hung out mostly on the internet. We love building products that help people optimize the crufty corners of their lives. Max is a former Google/Microsoft/Two Sigma PM and Gabriel has been working in startups for over a decade.

We’re building Coverage Cat: an AI-native, you can shop with your AI agent or via a form, insurance brokerage for consumers. Our current focus is helping tech folks (think L3-L8) buy umbrella insurance.

For those who are unfamiliar with this type of coverage, here’s a blurb from one of our insurance agents: “Umbrella liability insurance is a policy that provides additional coverage above the limits of existing auto, homeowners, renters, or landlord policies. It kicks in after the underlying policy limits are exhausted and may also cover personal injury claims like libel, slander, or defamation that standard policies often exclude. Policies typically start at $1 million in additional liability coverage and can protect you, your spouse, dependents, and even pets in your household.”

Buying insurance online is a miserable experience. You fill out a bunch of forms that say they’re going to give you quotes. Most don’t and then you end up with tons of unwanted phone calls and spam. Even if you wade through the muck, you’ll often still end up with sub-optimal prices and coverage because of a lack of market transparency and poorly-aligned advisory incentives. We came to this problem because Max is a classic personal finance obsessive. He's the type of person that needs to know that he has the best possible price for something (everyone has one friend with the patience for a two hour phone call with the bank for some $10 fee) or that his insurance coverage is as tailored to his risk profile as the market will allow. He actually reads insurance policies end to end.

Years ago, when he shopped for his homeowners insurance it took him 10+ phone calls and dozens of online form fills to find the right deal. He also suffered tons of collateral damage in the process: websites sold his information to dozens of agents who proceeded to call, text, and email him a spam hoard that grows to this day.

After this painful search made us aware of the problem, we also spent a lot of time doing user research with wealthy-ish tech employees to see if they felt the same way. They did, and also complained that they 1) often felt like they'd left money on the table, 2) didn’t really understand their coverages, and 3) that brokers were slow, hard to communicate with, and unreliable.

To solve the problem, we set out to build Coverage Cat. Our approach has three major components:

First, we work really really hard to find and partner with insurance carriers that offer high-quality, competitively-priced products. We've also taken time to identify insurers that work on a direct-to-consumer basis or transparently list their prices online so we can make our customers aware of all the options available to them. We get paid commission when we match users to great insurance deals, but we still show and recommend folks deals that we don't make money on when they're accessible and will always recommend users buy what's best for their personal financial situation. Our goal is to meaningfully improve price transparency so consumers (and their AI agents) can make informed coverage decisions and not get nickel-and-dimed!

Second, we automate every possible part of the insurance process. Some forms, portals, & approvals still need human review due to regulatory constraints, but if it's not restricted, we're automating it. LLMs have given our small team tremendous leverage and enabled us to tackle problems at a scale that would've been unfathomable five years ago.

Finally, we build for agents first (a remix of the more classic adage, build for developers/APIs). We've always been big believers that personal finance wou...

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That’s a very lengthy introduction.

I’d recommend distilling that down because I stopped reading before figuring out what your product does. And if I did that, then you can bet others did too.

I do wish you the best of luck with your business though.

Yeah this reasonable sounding explanation is all the way at the bottom strangely:

> Coverage Cat is a licensed insurance brokerage that helps you compare home, umbrella, auto, and renters coverage side by side — with straight pricing, no sold leads, and a real broker on the other end.

> Ask a question or start a comparison. Coverage Cat pairs AI-guided intake with a licensed brokerage team, so you can size up coverage, see honest price ranges, and compare real carrier options without handing your details to five agents overnight. Developers can drive the same flow through the Agent API.

I'm probably your target audience - I have umbrella insurance - but I just grabbed it through my existing GEICO/travelers insurance and it was basically painless. It isn't so expensive I felt compelled to shop massively for it and nothing I read above convinced me I'm wrong there?
How do you get umbrella insurance from GEICO? I have maxed out my auto policy limits but would like more coverage due to people driving around $150,000+ cars on the same roads uninsured people with bald tires drive on and things of that nature, I don’t want to go bankrupt if I get in an accident and a G Wagon and Escalade are somehow involved.
Do you take into account that if you know Berkshire Hathaway you can get an extra discount on GEICO, Home, and Umbrella insurance?
I live in a rainy and windy place, so I often need to replace a flipped umbrella. How did I not know that there's umbrella insurance!?
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Congrats on the launch. The first startup I joined years ago was Insurance.com, and I really enjoyed my time there. I helped to buildout quite a bit of it. If you ever want to chat about the space feel free to message me.
Emailed yah, thank you for the note!
My biggest line item is my auto insurance and your agent tool can’t do that. And I rent not own and thus have renters not homeowners.

Basically, this sounds interesting in theory but it’s useless for me. I even tried letting codex go over it and it wasn’t clear without additional prompting what was supported.

Sorry.

In a few years we'll cover all the categories! Thank you for taking a crack at it!
I worked as a product designer at Policygenius on their home/auto product. I was pretty obsessed with automating it so people would actually get their quotes instantly and I remember the challenges of being able to pull the accurate quotes with the info people could reasonably provide vs paying Lexisnexus etc. anyway it’s a slog. How are you guys getting quotes? And how have you thought about the acquired user challenge that they want to reshop but obviously insurers don’t want to pay you to lose their customers every 12mos ?
A lot of umbrella prices are somewhat parseable (think a simple-ish decision tree) vs auto and home prices which require reverse engineering rate cards to back into the pricing formulas.

Yes, folks come back at the end of their year. Most of the time their price remains the best (non-issue), when there are better options they switch. Carriers have been great partners so far since we bring them much more business than switches (and when the switches happen it's often because risk management wanted to reduce exposure in that region anyway).

Having just gone through an umbrella insurance process, I find it interesting that it's your primary product.

My understanding of umbrella coverage is like what you said: it's an adjunct product and a way to increase the fees on their other lines, which is why if you get umbrella via your existing carrier they generally enforce minimums on your auto (and home).

As someone with kids who drive, umbrella was much more complicated than expected.

I wish you guys operated in my state so I could run my numbers through you.

We're eyeing nationwide expansion in 2027 or later this year!

They'll enforce the minimums even as a standalone policy, my understanding is it's that the umbrella always "sits" ontop of something. I.e., they want you to clear the other liability limits before they step in to provide coverage.

It is kind of a huge hassle, especially in states like CA or FL where a lot of carriers have withdrawn and the default bundle option isn't necessarily available. We went looking for high pain X feasibility and this is where we landed!

I want to check it out for homeowners insurance in CA, but I can't be sure you guys will never ever send my info onto someone else to send me annoying emails or phone calls? Besides my home is not the best deal to insure I think, I'm barely above sea level, it makes me worried to switch insurance. What if the new deal drops me in a year?
We only send your information to insurers we quote you with and do our absolute best not to spam (we send 2-3 reminders depending on policy type), our goal is to never call.

In California we specialize in harder-to-insure homes, i.e. stuff that will place with a non-admitted/surplus policy, the goal is to help keep people off FAIR.

RE: cancellation/non-renewal, these do happen but it could happen to your existing deal too unfortunately. No one will force you to switch if it isn't a good deal and our agents do their best to always advise to the user's best interest. Our goal is to retain you as a customer for life (our agents just optimize automatically for you every year!) rather than make a quick buck one year.

I don't understand the point of putting visible Agent Instructions on the page taking up real estate while a human has the page open in a browser. Won't an agent be able to trivially extract these instructions if they came with a display:none rule?
Doesnt seem to work when I paste the prompt into ChatGPT web.
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