Lesser known is that Polymarket’s Twitter accounts themselves are actually rebranded personal accounts from (often cancelled) esports personalities. People who have given up their brand or their career sold their accounts to Polymarket, who rebranded them.
You can check by looking up tweets from their account IDs. I think it’s possible they may have even left up the old tweets if you scroll back far enough.
I have an old reddit account with a lot of karma. I once got an offer for it, I believe around $2,000. Maybe that offer was a scam, but people seem to be contacted to buy their accounts. Its incredible to me how much this is being done by deep pocketed marketers, and I imagine botnet operators working for heaven knows who. This something not talked about much but buying up and re-branding accounts with established viewership or high-karma happens a lot.
I have seen it politically and part of shady marking. I read the girlsgamer sub on reddit and I remember a big influx of "I'm a woman and I support (current game with sexist elements)." Back then you could see everyone's post and comment history. You could see these accounts went quiet a year or two or three ago and their history was very male coded, then came back on-line recently pushing culture-war narratives and describing themselves very differently than their original posts and comments.
I also saw the same thing with some suspicious right-wing posts on some political subs I'm on. Just an old account that had little to no political posting history suddenly coming alive and posting non-stop politics.
I find it interesting and suspicious reddit only started allowing hidden profiles after this and when people started pointing this out.
I think its safe to say all social media is badly compromised and gamed by monied interests.
> The 50 Cent Party, also known as the 50 Cent Army or wumao (/ˈwuːmaʊ/; from Chinese: 五毛; lit. 'five dimes'), are Chinese government employees posting online comments to divert public attention or promote positive sentiment.
A study published in 2017 points out that almost everything known about the 50 Cent Party in the past had been wrong. Most combative posts and commentators attributed to the 50 Cent Party were instead linked to private nationalistic individuals.
> I feel fine participating because Polymarket has no house edge or VIG
> Prediction markets are PVP thats the way i look at it
This is true but people should at least be informed that the overwhelming majority of traders are HFT firms with faster access to data and the prediction markets than you. These firms pay the prediction markets for that access, and the losses that happen on prediction markets flow to these few large HFT shops.
This is definitely slimy, but it's pretty much bog-standard slimy marketing practice these days, no? Like these is framed as though it's a big expose, but isn't it common knowledge that tons of companies do this kind of thing?
My Instagram ads are just filled with Polymarket, Kalshi, brand name casinos... it's endless. It's all low level influencers talking about how much money they're making, how you can bet (and yes, it is betting) any time you have 30 seconds to spare, how easy it makes it all.
I feel like there's been a growing, dark underbelly of gambling addiction since it was legalized online. And it's going to be difficult to walk it back.
(the ones that truly blow my mind are the promo ads for people gambling on buying mystery collectible cards then virtually "ripping" the pack open. Grown adult men paying hundreds of dollars! Absolutely wild.)
> (the ones that truly blow my mind are the promo ads for people gambling on buying mystery collectible cards then virtually "ripping" the pack open. Grown adult men paying hundreds of dollars! Absolutely wild.)
Gambling and betting always seem target explotation of people who aren't well off already. Like lottery tickets I worry that Polymarket, Kalshi and the like are ways to further destroy the marginal in an apathetic if not malign political environment. It doesn't seem like anyone is doing anything about it.
A number of state governments are working hard to do something about it. The reason it seems like no action is being taken is that they've bribed the federal government to take their side.
I have a theory that the prevalence of gambling, trading, and investing is a natural response to wealth inequality and automation. Wealth has always correlated with risk (e.g. business ownership) but as the prospects for wealth diminish, the amount of risk people are willing (forced?) to take on grows.
An optimistic view could be that in a future where AI drives most of GDP and UBI covers basic needs, well-regulated betting marketplaces could provide an opportunity for people to get ahead (or at least do something) for example by developing algorithms and AIs that do rigorous backtesting and apply institutional-grade risk management strategies.
The pessimistic view is that these marketplaces are just another cause of wealth inequality, they will always extract more wealth than they generate, and there is no place for them in a balanced, healthy economy.
> I have a theory that the prevalence of gambling, trading, and investing is a natural response to wealth inequality and automation. Wealth has always correlated with risk (e.g. business ownership) but as the prospects for wealth diminish, the amount of risk people are willing (forced?) to take on grows.
There was a NY Times article a while back that talked about why Gen Z is so into gambling: they feel the system is so rigged against them that traditional strategies to get safety and security (e.g. get a good job, save, buy a house, etc.) don't work anymore. So they either give up (and focus on short-term consumption) or throw their money at long shots like gambling and crypto, hoping for a jackpot.
> The pessimistic view is that these marketplaces are just another cause of wealth inequality, they will always extract more wealth than they generate, and there is no place for them in a balanced, healthy economy.
That is the truth. They don't generate any wealth, they exist to take a cut on people transferring money unproductively.
No need to be abstract and theoretical about it; it's how the trickle down economy works.
Boomers and GenX are the ones foisting that reality on them; GenZ is pushing the buttons supply side is providing
Stop talking in vague abstractions. We know this is 100% top down driven self selected interpretations of historical documents by the elders in charge of political interpretations
I know several organizations who have surrendered all online presence to social media, primarily instagram. I cannot find their events anywhere else. My dream is to have a fake account that scrapes all accounts I care about and sends just the highlights to me. I am sure that Meta spends an inordinate amount of time preventing this
you can work on your timeline and who you follow, maybe use a vpn, and make sure meta doesn't really know who you are. my timeline has none of that shit.
If I cared enough to go to those lengths I’d just stop using Instagram. I don’t really object to being shown these ads, it’s just wild to me how widespread this all is.
Meanwhile these degenerate folk play these things irresponsibly, become public charges, and I have to pay the brunt of it as a taxpayer who isn't going to get any of my money back in the form of things that benefit me. Social Security will be insolvent, I still don't have universal healthcare or functional public transportation, and the cost of everything is going up while I'm getting taxed to death.
The only actual solution I've found is to participate in the "system" itself and actually get my money back from the "system". I have better math skills than 99.9% of people on the platforms, so I'm able to profit significantly by quant trading on it.
I wish I didn't have to do this. Inflation and taxes could be less if everyone was smart with their money.
Pack ripping was huge during COVID. It is always more economical in the long run to buy singles than to rip packs. Generally speaking, the primary purpose of mystery boxes is to dump slow-moving inventory.
You must have clicked some at some point, all I get when I have ads on is outdoors gear because I've clicked a few of those ads in the past and my "suggestions" are related to that category.
> My Instagram ads are just filled with Polymarket, Kalshi, brand name casinos... it's endless.
At least you get actual ads, not a feed full of Twitter and 4chan screenshots overlaid with SKARS AI slop music and wrapped at the top and bottom by a casino ad.
Whatever other analysis makes sense here, can you imagine a less satisfying job? I think cleaning up elephant dung would give me more career satisfaction than this.
They do this on Reddit as well. Some accounts post about news and events with an image attached, and just so happen to include a reference to Polymarket somewhere in the image every time, even when it makes no sense.
I am into Counter Strike and I love watching the majors, but it seems like my entire feed is full of betting ads for Polymarket now. Before I had actual counter strike casinos but those are long gone in favor of these prediction markets.
In the past 5 years I’ve been to Vegas & Atlantic City 7 times for conferences and music festivals. Never had any interest in gambling, except $20 in video blackjack on the most recent trip.
At the end of the summer I dipped my toe in Polymarket while watching the US Open (the only sporting event that interest me). In a week and I half I nearly lost 2 months salary. Found myself up at 3AM betting not just on tennis, but also on random sports that seemed like a “sure thing.” And not just on Polymarket, but Kalshi too.
The dark patterns involved in prediction markets are real and terrifying. Washed my hands of that, but woof.
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[ 2.7 ms ] story [ 5.6 ms ] threadYou can check by looking up tweets from their account IDs. I think it’s possible they may have even left up the old tweets if you scroll back far enough.
I have seen it politically and part of shady marking. I read the girlsgamer sub on reddit and I remember a big influx of "I'm a woman and I support (current game with sexist elements)." Back then you could see everyone's post and comment history. You could see these accounts went quiet a year or two or three ago and their history was very male coded, then came back on-line recently pushing culture-war narratives and describing themselves very differently than their original posts and comments.
I also saw the same thing with some suspicious right-wing posts on some political subs I'm on. Just an old account that had little to no political posting history suddenly coming alive and posting non-stop politics.
I find it interesting and suspicious reddit only started allowing hidden profiles after this and when people started pointing this out.
I think its safe to say all social media is badly compromised and gamed by monied interests.
> The 50 Cent Party, also known as the 50 Cent Army or wumao (/ˈwuːmaʊ/; from Chinese: 五毛; lit. 'five dimes'), are Chinese government employees posting online comments to divert public attention or promote positive sentiment.
What do you mean? I posted the minimum amount to explain an unfamiliar term. I wasn't going to quote the whole article.
> So the term became a misnomer.
What's your point? Shilling doesn't have to be combative.
> Prediction markets are PVP thats the way i look at it
This is true but people should at least be informed that the overwhelming majority of traders are HFT firms with faster access to data and the prediction markets than you. These firms pay the prediction markets for that access, and the losses that happen on prediction markets flow to these few large HFT shops.
is there a justification for it not being illegal?
I feel like there's been a growing, dark underbelly of gambling addiction since it was legalized online. And it's going to be difficult to walk it back.
(the ones that truly blow my mind are the promo ads for people gambling on buying mystery collectible cards then virtually "ripping" the pack open. Grown adult men paying hundreds of dollars! Absolutely wild.)
Sounds just like a lot of NFTs.
An optimistic view could be that in a future where AI drives most of GDP and UBI covers basic needs, well-regulated betting marketplaces could provide an opportunity for people to get ahead (or at least do something) for example by developing algorithms and AIs that do rigorous backtesting and apply institutional-grade risk management strategies.
The pessimistic view is that these marketplaces are just another cause of wealth inequality, they will always extract more wealth than they generate, and there is no place for them in a balanced, healthy economy.
There was a NY Times article a while back that talked about why Gen Z is so into gambling: they feel the system is so rigged against them that traditional strategies to get safety and security (e.g. get a good job, save, buy a house, etc.) don't work anymore. So they either give up (and focus on short-term consumption) or throw their money at long shots like gambling and crypto, hoping for a jackpot.
> The pessimistic view is that these marketplaces are just another cause of wealth inequality, they will always extract more wealth than they generate, and there is no place for them in a balanced, healthy economy.
That is the truth. They don't generate any wealth, they exist to take a cut on people transferring money unproductively.
Economic Nihilism in Card Games https://mtg.cardsrealm.com/en-us/articles/economic-nihilism-...
No, you don’t. You have a hypothesis.
And since it’s based in social psychology, it’s empirically unfalsifiable, so it can honestly never be a theory at all.
Good day.
No need to be abstract and theoretical about it; it's how the trickle down economy works.
Boomers and GenX are the ones foisting that reality on them; GenZ is pushing the buttons supply side is providing
Stop talking in vague abstractions. We know this is 100% top down driven self selected interpretations of historical documents by the elders in charge of political interpretations
That's your one-two punch right there. On Instagram, and viewing ads. Best thing to do is avoid both.
The only actual solution I've found is to participate in the "system" itself and actually get my money back from the "system". I have better math skills than 99.9% of people on the platforms, so I'm able to profit significantly by quant trading on it.
I wish I didn't have to do this. Inflation and taxes could be less if everyone was smart with their money.
lol
lmao
At least you get actual ads, not a feed full of Twitter and 4chan screenshots overlaid with SKARS AI slop music and wrapped at the top and bottom by a casino ad.
https://youtu.be/aVDsRkwiUUQ?is=5vPSAQmOXYG30-sk
At the end of the summer I dipped my toe in Polymarket while watching the US Open (the only sporting event that interest me). In a week and I half I nearly lost 2 months salary. Found myself up at 3AM betting not just on tennis, but also on random sports that seemed like a “sure thing.” And not just on Polymarket, but Kalshi too.
The dark patterns involved in prediction markets are real and terrifying. Washed my hands of that, but woof.