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JumpCrisscross
Elon Musk is a national security threat to free Europe.

I don’t for a second believe anyone in leadership will make the necessary hard choices, e.g. tariffs or even bans on purchasing or financing Tesla and Starlink. And Musk knows this. He wouldn’t dare pull this sort of nonsense with anyone in China’s sphere of influence.

afavour
So, Starlink is a national security risk. Worth noting.
jacquesm
It only gets flagged when it reaches the homepage. Elon has godlike status amongst some HN'ers so it is kind of predictable that whatever criticizes Elon will get flagged.
afavour
Flagging downranks the entry so it disappears quickly off the homepage. As indeed happened in this case.
tim333
There have also been 94 Musk stories submitted over the last week so sometimes it's a bit excessive.
avidruntime
I feel like there's been a shift. Elon used to have god like status, but as he spent that social capital on objectionable behavior, it seems the shift has been towards a general dismissal and disdain for people who dislike Elon, which gets conflated into a similar thought terminating argument like "Trump derangement syndrome"
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tmpz22
I was unable to access this post without logging in. I kept receiving a page whose only text was “sorry.”
jacquesm
That happens, it's a bug in HN. The title will show but the page comes up blank with 'Sorry.'.
yoyohello13
Funny how this is barely visible while the roadster that will never see the light of day has >2000 comments.
tastyface
Musk adds Ukrainian blood to his already sopping-wet hands.
jacquesm
I wonder in what other country a private individual would be given the power over foreign policy to this extent.
worik
I think the USA has laws against private citizens involving themselves in foreign policy

Edit: The Logan Act

jacquesm
You can have all the laws you want but if you don't enforce them they might as well not exist. And then there is the abuse of power. I'm not under the illusion that any of these people will ever answer for their deeds. But the world is watching and learning.
rectang
Note to anyone considering buying defense product from Musk's companies: your security may be shut off at Elon Musk's whim.
Lio
Yeah if you're a share holder you shouldn't be in any doubt that business is probably dead, if not straight away then in the medium term.
verdverm
From another comment of mine on a HN Musk submission today

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Musk has earned the vitriol, largely due to his political stunts. When the world's richest person starts dumping his money into elections and interfering in politics across the globe, why are we surprised people are angry and critical? When he takes a golden chainsaw to USAID, how many preventable deaths are directly attributable to these changes? How is it fair that an unelected, private citizen can contribute so much money to one person's political campaign, and then receive carte blanche to change our public services as a reward? How is it that this same person can unilaterally change how our military assets are used by an ally?

Something is deeply wrong with this. This is the heart of people's anger.

ortusdux
Time to by stock in their competitors
goatlover
When will Elon be held accountable?
jacquesm
probably never, but if he ever spends a day in jail because of this I'll be happy to eat a soft head covering of your choosing[1].

[1] conditions (condiments) may apply.

hnburnsy
So which reporting do I believe:

  Reuters reported the order came from inside the White House
  The Telegraph reported Musk proposed it to Trump
  WSJ says Musk ordered it
LastTrain
Oh right it is all just /so/ confusing lets all just give up /s
yubblegum
translation: Current US admin is a fascist regime.
throw310822
Is this saying that Musk ordered by himself a restriction in the service of Starshield, a US defense infrastructure? Is it just me or this doesn't make any sense?
insane_dreamer
> by himself

the reporting doesn't indicate he did this "on his own"; but rather it appears it was initiated by the WH. Musk of course giving the order since the WH wasn't going to call up the Starlink engineers directly

cdrnsf
This is easy: issue crippling fines and criminal penalties, nationalize SpaceX and allow Ukraine to go on using it.
petetnt
It’s also no mistake that a certain ”flying” car was shown recently, it’s like jangling shiny keys in front of people and the general public, including HN, ate it wholesale.
roryirvine
Try jingling your keys too often, and your cat will start acting with disdain rather than excitement.

I suspect that ever more of us have reached that point with Musk. Soon, he'll be reduced to dancing a jig with his underpants on his head in a desperate attempt to forestall yawns from his audience.

What happens at that point? Will he calm down and start acting a bit more sensibly, or will he react against the ingrates? Will he want to send us all away to, er, live on a farm?

Zigurd
Seems like humanoid robots are passé now.