How is this a better source, the current post is a PoC? This is just a warning...
You're not even reading the things you're saying are worse, and reccomending things that arent what you say they are (because you didnt read those either)
I just wrote almost the same thing (I start to write my
comments before I read what others say, so that it is not
influenced directly what I write). I am glad to come to the
same conclusion - this website is both visually interesting
as well as very annoying.
It's things like "under the attacker's feet" which completely throw me off. While trying to parse the text, my brain tries to imagine a surprised hacker.
It is visually interesting but also annoying. I hate to
admit it, but as I grow older, I may get dumber and I
much prefer simplicity at all times.
As for PHP: it also is a bit weird how programming languages
have not yet all fixed existing bugs. Has not AI been used
to find bugs or assumed bugs? Why are bugs found in old
code still?
Yeah it does. Part of it is being a popular starter language before people know what they’re doing, but a lot of it is legitimately terrible language[1] and API design, especially in older versions. It also has CVE-2026-109618, a type of vulnerability many languages aren’t even capable of having (since it wouldn’t be part of the language, and the library that implemented the equivalent would only be present when necessary and usually not written in C - with some exceptions).
> but a lot of it is legitimately terrible language[1] and API design
Unlike well-thought-out languages like JavaScript, of course.
What's the saying? A programming language is either bad, or no one uses it. Discussions about flavors of bad in well-established programming languages are a waste of time.
I forget making the claim that JavaScript was a well-thought-out language. But yes, I can see how discussing programming language and library design/implementation, as or with the type of person who trots out trite thought-terminating clichés, could be a waste of time.
unfortunately php is mosty ...insert forum here...
hell even vanilla xenforo was getting compromised all the time, sure there's smaller frameworks and various government institutions using php, but it has many of the same downfalls that mixing server and client code has, the worst offender that comes to mind that enabled many of these bad practices is next.js
You misread. He is saying that the multipart UAF vulnerability part of the overall exploit can't be fixed by session.upload_progress.enabled = off or any other ini option for that matter.
I'm pretty sure this is not the vulnerability that's still officially under embargo. I think I found the the two actual vulnerabilities (both UAFs and similar). I patched my own stuff (at least I hope so) and am mirroring traffic to a detector, very interested to see when I get the first hits. Unless I see actual exploit attempts or a full leak I think I'm not going to publish my patches yet.
If you use Nginx, you can temporarly block the subject by disallowing multipart sendings to PHP. This is quite a problem for a lot of forms, but way better that being hacked.
Here is an Nginx patch :
if ($http_content_type ~* "multipart") {
return 403;
}
You can also turn of session progress in php.ini as mentionned but that does not seem to cover every cases :
session.upload_progress.enabled = Off
It assumes PHP frees the upload progress data when it reloads the session. But PHP 8.4 (the one we use is 8.4.24, i don't know for other versions) calls Z_TRY_ADDREF(progress->data) to keep that data alive. The fake function call also seems to contain invalid fields.
This makes me question this particular PoC, not the official PHP security warning. I have not reproduced the exploit, so this is a concern based on reading the code, not proof that the real vulnerabilities cannot be exploited.
But anyway the CVE still exists, and the exploitation is tied to multipart, disabling it seems the best thing you can do now without shutting everything down.
I can literally feel my eyes physically defocusing trying to read this, and I can’t help but conclude that, at a level below conscious thought, my brain is trying to defend itself from AI-generated text. Perhaps it is more of a cognitopoison than I explicitly knew.
Ctrl-Alt-R for reader view in Firefox, not that it makes the whole thing much more interesting to look at - we'll forget about it all soon enough anyway. Don't forget to tweak the default settings for reader view for a better experience.
Announcing this thing and then putting an embargo on the fix for 24 hours is by far the most irresponsible thing internals has ever done and I have seen them do some insane shit in the past 20 years.
Any idea if Cloudflare in front of an unpatched site would prevent this? They did 2 updates already today to their managed rulesets but are not specifying what.
"Cloudflare has protections in place for known exploit payloads. There will be more variations to come and the only way to fully protect your site is to update php once released."
I think putting my PHP site behind Cloudflare would be the least I would do if I wanted to keep it online before PHP can be patched. The other alternative is trying to block multi-part uploads before they reach PHP.
Make sure to create CF tunnel to your server and to reject all traffic frin other sources, or to accept traffic only from known CF ips. Otherwise, you're still exposed, even if CF WAF works.
I guess the future is people arguing in comments whether a high-severity vulnerability is the one under embargo, or one of various unrelated devastating bugs discovered when people got wind of the embargo and pointed their AI agents at the codebase.
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It is visually interesting but also annoying. I hate to admit it, but as I grow older, I may get dumber and I much prefer simplicity at all times.
As for PHP: it also is a bit weird how programming languages have not yet all fixed existing bugs. Has not AI been used to find bugs or assumed bugs? Why are bugs found in old code still?
Every programming language has security vulnerabilities. PHP doesn’t have any more than others.
Yeah it does. Part of it is being a popular starter language before people know what they’re doing, but a lot of it is legitimately terrible language[1] and API design, especially in older versions. It also has CVE-2026-109618, a type of vulnerability many languages aren’t even capable of having (since it wouldn’t be part of the language, and the library that implemented the equivalent would only be present when necessary and usually not written in C - with some exceptions).
[1] People have already covered this in depth, but here’s a lesser-mentioned taste: https://web.archive.org/web/20261017012819/https://www.php.n... (one section, btw)
Unlike well-thought-out languages like JavaScript, of course.
What's the saying? A programming language is either bad, or no one uses it. Discussions about flavors of bad in well-established programming languages are a waste of time.
hell even vanilla xenforo was getting compromised all the time, sure there's smaller frameworks and various government institutions using php, but it has many of the same downfalls that mixing server and client code has, the worst offender that comes to mind that enabled many of these bad practices is next.js
How fast will the repos be updated?
>Leave Nothing
Cringe larping skiddie nonsense
<If "req('Content-Type') =~ /multipart/i"> Require all denied </If>
Here is an Nginx patch : if ($http_content_type ~* "multipart") { return 403; }
You can also turn of session progress in php.ini as mentionned but that does not seem to cover every cases : session.upload_progress.enabled = Off
It assumes PHP frees the upload progress data when it reloads the session. But PHP 8.4 (the one we use is 8.4.24, i don't know for other versions) calls Z_TRY_ADDREF(progress->data) to keep that data alive. The fake function call also seems to contain invalid fields.
This makes me question this particular PoC, not the official PHP security warning. I have not reproduced the exploit, so this is a concern based on reading the code, not proof that the real vulnerabilities cannot be exploited.
But anyway the CVE still exists, and the exploitation is tied to multipart, disabling it seems the best thing you can do now without shutting everything down.
https://developers.cloudflare.com/waf/change-log/changelog/
"We got you covered" - Dane Knecht (Cloudflare CTO)
"Cloudflare has protections in place for known exploit payloads. There will be more variations to come and the only way to fully protect your site is to update php once released."
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