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Wouldn't want any of that pesky true climate-change-proving data available, now would we?
Climate change was such a downer. Good riddance!
The adverb “quietly” has become such an AI smell to me, even if it’s probably not one in this instance.
well, they certainly aren't advertising it, are they?
Well, they didn't call the archive load-bearing
That must be why the kids are always saying "lowkey".
Why are companies allowed to remove themselves from the web archive?

They shouldn't be.

They're not. Someone on HN said that they just mark it as unavailable but they still keep it, I don't know what the expiry is on that though, or if they could be forced to actually delete something 'for real'. Nor do I know how you'd verify that beyond doubt.
Everything bad is good for this administration.
This isn’t really a Trump thing. It says they’ve been trying to shut the thing down since 2022
Has anyone scraped this already for offline use?
I think Archive Team might have scraped it, but their site is down due to PHP-related reasons at the moment.
Take note Republicans (which I'm doubting many even care anymore), your party thinks short term profits for a few are more important than science and the environment for all.
EPA planned to do the same thing in 2022...

https://web.archive.org/web/20220124192618/https://archive.e...

Relevant text from TFA:

> This isn’t the first time the environmental agency has tried to shutter the online web archive. In late January 2022, the Biden administration EPA announced plans to discontinue the online repository, citing burdensome financial upkeep; through a Freedom of Information Act request, Gehrke was able to determine that the agency spent roughly $2 million a year to maintain it. A coalition of environmentalists, historians, and librarians swiftly condemned the decision, with groups like the EDGI and American Society for Environmental History calling the announcement “alarming” and cause for a “tremendous gap” in the historical record.

> After five months of public backlash, the EPA acquiesced, in part by announcing it would delay the web archive’s retirement by one year to July 2023.

$2 million a year is wildly insignificant for the federal government.

Less than one cent per year per person in federal taxes.

And yet the number of projects with similarly insignificant costs is large, and they do add up.

The argument cannot be "this money doesn't matter", it has to be "this represents good value for money" (imo)

They literally don’t add up. Just look at a pie chart of the US government budget. The administrative state is a bargain.

Departments like the EPA are so small that they have to be put in the “other” umbrella that makes up 1% of federal spending (go to the Agency tab):

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/feder...

sad, the spending chart doesn't load in my version of firefox, and both links in the caption also have page-load issues. very sad.
Just a note that pie charts are not well regarded in this application.

Stephen Few, “Save the Pies for Dessert” (https://www.perceptualedge.com/articles/visual_business_inte...)

Edward Tufte, “The only worse design than a pie chart is several of them.”

The “1% other” is more compelling.

The link I shared wasn't even a pie chart, so when I said "pie chart" I was speaking in a colloquial sense.
> "this represents good value for money" (imo)

Wouldn't you say this archive represents good value for the money?

A nation that forgets its past is a nation that repeats its mistakes.

> Wouldn't you say this archive represents good value for the money?

Yes, that's the point. Not "this is so cheap it's irrelevant" but "this is an important resource worth funding".

This is so disingenuous. We all know where the money goes.
The checks that add up are the social security checks cashed by the quarter or so of baby boomers who don’t need them.
Is the suggestion that social security (a (progressive) program where people largely pay in) should be replaced with a welfare type program? Or if we're just talking about biggest expenditures, things like the 1) Medicare, 2) other gov health spending, and 3) interest paid on the debt are far larger than the item your comment mentioned.
A program that is only used by poor people will immediately be scrapped. Never underestimate the seething hatred that the middle class has for the underclass. Besides all that social security money goes straight into the economy.
The epa doesn't have access to the federal budget
That’s not really the point, the point is that $2 million isn’t a lot of money for a service that is for the benefit of over 300 million people.
It serves a lot more than just the citizens of the US, for what it's worth.
Its tiny, setting up traffic lights on some road junction might cost similar.
If they weren't afraid of the data being public they wouldn't be removing it.

The only saving grace of this administration is that their incompetence helps to slow down their evilness.

Where are r/archiveteam when you need them?
I hate to say this because it's so overused, but this move is certainly veering into 1984 territory
Wiping and rewriting history is straight from 1984 (novel). It's insane US let this happen.
Next thing the moon landing hoax will become part of Americas curriculum ala Interstellar