As you can surmise from the domain, this is created by Mr Doob. They're most well known for creating the 3D JavaScript library Three.js: https://threejs.org
Their full site and a lot more cool stuff they've made can be found here: https://mrdoob.com
I opened that in a background tab and went "why does it sound like quake 1" - haha. This whole site has a bunch of awesome stuff on it, thank you for sharing.
I know no one stops you from using hashtag `codevember` on vibe coded project[0], but... isn't the whole point of these one month challenges(genuary, nodevember, inktober, etc) about human creativity? Like game jams?
I thought so too, but AI is kinda destroying everything fun. Game jams, Advent of code, code codevember apparently. To me personally it's super sad to see.
i don't care about leaderboards but i do care about the community of like-minded people that comes with these kinds of competitions, which AI larpers totally eliminate
While true, I think it's also true that ideas are cheap - how many people here know someone that had a great idea (like "uber for pets") and just need a software developer to build it?
That said, idea people can now make their ideas a reality quicker / cheaper without needing an expert, if only to show it. Which in turn can make them more creative and original. In theory.
People still paint, despite photoshop. People still play instruments, despite Digital Audio Workstations.
There is art in the craft, and more importantly enjoyment in the craft.
I wouldn't AI generate a song because all of the fun for me and my friends is in the playing and watching. You will find that's true very often for creative people and those who enjoy their work.
If all you are doing is blasting out corporate assets, or persuing money, I don't think anyone cares what you are using, generate away.
I see plenty of creativity on display here. I haven't seen anything like this and it was delightful. Also makes me want to explore more that I can do to create visualizations like this.
The fact that it was vibe coded matters very little to me. Gate keeping the concept of a codevember doesnt seem very codevember to me.
A lot of established engineers are using LLMs. I am not sure why that is still a stigma. Our industry is going through major changes, that is well established. I would be surprised if someone is not using LLMs to produce cool experiments.
Human creativity goes into "what to build", not "how to build it".
A Photograph is, mechanically, 100% machine-created. But we still call photographers "creative" for their work on picking what to photograph, how to frame it, timing the shot, etc..
Honestly, I think it's wonderful that editors are finally getting some credit for the creativity they bring to the process. There's plenty of writing about how famous films like "Star Wars" often owe a lot to their editing, even though that traditionally doesn't get credited as "creative" work.
Revered photographers do a lot more than push a button. But I agree pushing a button and getting a result without much thought or effort generally doesn't make for an interesting creative work, most professional photographers would agree too
Creativity is defined by what one did in the creative process, not whether you did something else outside of the creative process or not. I.e. if the only thing you do is say "make me a piece of art, I'll pay you $x" then you had 0 creative involvement. Not because you paid for it, but because of the lack of doing anything during the creation process.
The same is true of using any tool. If you just click a generic "process photo" button in an image editor for every photo you get then you're doing no creative work. If you mess with the different options and settings to find the one which matches your creative vision then you've played a part in the creative process.
> Human creativity goes into "what to build", not "how to build it".
This is nonsense, right? If I decided "hey wouldn't it be cool if there was a really interesting painting of a dude" that isn't an interesting creative expression
If I enter a "Make pottery" monthly challenge locally, and show up with a robot that produces mugs, I'm sure it'd spawn some interesting conversation nonetheless, but I'd also expect the organizers to tell me I didn't quite get the spirit of what they're doing.
It's pretty much the same here. The purpose of these "jams" or "challenges" isn't to see if LLMs can do those things, obviously they can, we all know this already. The point is for you to personally challenge yourself, and improve yourself. That's the spirit at least.
I've been thinking about this and still can't understand it. It feels like making generative ai art and posting it with hashtag inktober.
You could say that 'the artist' guided the genai to show creativity, ai is just a tool, and maybe the process helped improve their drawing skills.
Yes, I agree. It's just... maybe it's because I won't be amazed by coding challenge posts anymore like I used to, just like I'm not excited about hobby coding projects these days.
You do realize who this is, right? Do you know how many manually written jams/demos mrdoob has directly enabled by his three.js work? Can we please, please, try and fight the urge to driveby this sort of work?
It is nice, but I'm somewhat unnerved that it never stops pouring. I expect it to finally stop at some time, and it doesn't, which for some reason makes me uneasy.
Or even before that. I'm on a M1 Ultra mac studio with 128G of RAM. I would have expected a lot more performance, but then I'm seeing a lot of conversation about codevember and AI use and yeah… this is a good part of that argument.
I feel like this is what you get when you don't codevember, but you had an idea that would be cool. I've never seen a HN 'show something cool that's a relatively simple visual hack that's also physics etc.' that chugged this hard on my machine. I'm not running anything else and I have 20 cores and RAM isn't going to pose any obstacle. It's not very performant.
81 comments
[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 18.6 ms ] threadIf it could move with a mobile device’s gyroscope, that would be quite the amuse-esprit.
If Apple has liquid glass, why can't web have jelly menus??
Their full site and a lot more cool stuff they've made can be found here: https://mrdoob.com
[0] https://youtu.be/YfJRWg9C_CY?si=lddua1cpDlrbGgq-
I'm thankful for the work Mr Doob has done before, but this wasn't "created" by him.
It's AI output that he himself has published.
Doesn't work on Firefox Mobile.
about:config -> webgl.disabled: false
[0]: https://x.com/mrdoob/status/2117561239249518650
That said, idea people can now make their ideas a reality quicker / cheaper without needing an expert, if only to show it. Which in turn can make them more creative and original. In theory.
There is art in the craft, and more importantly enjoyment in the craft.
I wouldn't AI generate a song because all of the fun for me and my friends is in the playing and watching. You will find that's true very often for creative people and those who enjoy their work.
If all you are doing is blasting out corporate assets, or persuing money, I don't think anyone cares what you are using, generate away.
The fact that it was vibe coded matters very little to me. Gate keeping the concept of a codevember doesnt seem very codevember to me.
> isn't the whole point of these one month challenges(genuary, nodevember, inktober, etc) about human creativity? Like game jams?
A Photograph is, mechanically, 100% machine-created. But we still call photographers "creative" for their work on picking what to photograph, how to frame it, timing the shot, etc..
Honestly, I think it's wonderful that editors are finally getting some credit for the creativity they bring to the process. There's plenty of writing about how famous films like "Star Wars" often owe a lot to their editing, even though that traditionally doesn't get credited as "creative" work.
This is literally what photographers do. Most do not even deal with exposure or any other setting. "Auto".
Professional ones, this is completely incorrect. Maybe hobbyists? But even then, not many.
The same is true of using any tool. If you just click a generic "process photo" button in an image editor for every photo you get then you're doing no creative work. If you mess with the different options and settings to find the one which matches your creative vision then you've played a part in the creative process.
I dont know if i've ever seen a message miss the point more than this one.
This is nonsense, right? If I decided "hey wouldn't it be cool if there was a really interesting painting of a dude" that isn't an interesting creative expression
It's pretty much the same here. The purpose of these "jams" or "challenges" isn't to see if LLMs can do those things, obviously they can, we all know this already. The point is for you to personally challenge yourself, and improve yourself. That's the spirit at least.
You could say that 'the artist' guided the genai to show creativity, ai is just a tool, and maybe the process helped improve their drawing skills.
Yes, I agree. It's just... maybe it's because I won't be amazed by coding challenge posts anymore like I used to, just like I'm not excited about hobby coding projects these days.
I feel like this is what you get when you don't codevember, but you had an idea that would be cool. I've never seen a HN 'show something cool that's a relatively simple visual hack that's also physics etc.' that chugged this hard on my machine. I'm not running anything else and I have 20 cores and RAM isn't going to pose any obstacle. It's not very performant.
I guess the great unwashed have finally won.