I kinda wish they'd take it "very seriously". Corporate communications generally take issues "very seriously". The fact that they're only taking it "seriously" makes me wonder if they're really taking it seriously or not.
personal perspective- L3X has repeatedly demonstrated a corporate culture of accountability allergy. spiderman meme was made for L3. I think it goes up and down the chain
travellers stranded thanks to these guys would probably prefer that they take it, hard, in a particular part of their grotesque anatomy. now that would be worth the 50 billion usd ask.
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Welcome to the world of defense contractors! Here at Raytheon Grumman Dynamic we have business units in all technical domains with engineers, scientists, and technicians of every kind, all organized under the leadership of finance and business majors to maximize shareholder value!
The best part is that one of the entries in the name is usually in some completely unrelated field.
When I learned that the GenCorp in Aerojet GenCorp was a tire manufacturer, the joke in Portal of the portal gun having possible applications as a shower curtain hit a lot harder. Also, the Morton in Morton Thiokol, the company that made the boosters that failed in the Challenger disaster, is the salt company.
Oh, these are defense contractors, that explains a lot about this non-statement.
I had thought the L3 was from Level 3 Communications and Harris, but its actually L3 Technologies which seems to be a holding company for defense contractors.
L3 Technologies was a large defense contractor that was known for night vision and optics among a number of other things. They merged with Harris to create L3H. They're not a holding company.
So I bought a Fortigate firewall on ebay some years back for a lab device, I password recovered it to break in and recover it, and it came up registered to them, and still under Enterprise license support for like 6mo. Great, that's exactly what I wanted for a lab device! I looked them up to see they were a defense contractor, ok, so more money than brains. I'll take advantage...
That 6mo came and went, and they renewed the support on it for another year, and my firewall saw the entitlement. Even better, I continued to use it. After 4 years finally the device went EOL/EOS and expired with no more support available, I was sad.
Obviously these guys are fsckheads, more money and contracts from friends in high places than brains. This totally explains why the air system melted down!
What would you prefer to use? What else is there besides PaloAlto that's not even worse? Not saying Fortigates are great but they're the least shit I know of so please elaborate if you know of something better in the enterprise IT space.
"Modernizing" is a favorite buzzword in government contracting. Moving some app to the cloud and doing nothing else to it? Modernizing. Rewriting the whole thing? Also modernizing. Putting a new API in front of an old system and then leaving the old system around for years? Also modernizing. Modernizing can mean everything and nothing.
> In 2008, 72 Iraqi civilians sued L3 Services for human rights violations they had endured at Abu Ghraib and other prisons in Iraq, including "torture; cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment; war crimes; assault and battery; sexual assault and battery; intentional infliction of emotional distress; negligent hiring and supervision; and negligent infliction of emotional distress." A settlement was reached on October 10, 2012, which was the "first positive resolution to a U.S. civil case challenging detainee treatment outside the United States in the larger 'war on terror' context".
> In 2012, L3 subsidiary KDI Precision Products participated in the sale of 11,500 JDAM bomb fuzes to Israel, part of a $647 million contract deal. These were among the weapons used by the IDF in the 2014 Gaza War; the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights highlighted the IDF's weapons usages, which included attacks on densely populated civilian areas, as constituting potential war crimes.
> In June 2022, Chris Kubasik succeeded as the Chair following Bill Brown's retirement. That same month it was reported to have held talks to purchase the Israeli company NSO, which builds Pegasus spyware. White House officials heard of the talks and voiced opposition, resulting in L3Harris discontinuing its plans.
> In October 2025, Israel entered into a memorandum of understanding with L3Harris to facilitate the acquisition of new light attack aircraft intended for border defense, aimed at developing the Israeli Sky Warden variant.
oh no its evil af to do the things our enemies will do. if only someone would destroy the united states so we could live like cucks to the entire planet ;(
Please find a better use for HN than linking the same Wikipedia article over and over again - this is the seventh time you've posted it. It is bannable behavior and not a gratifying use of the site.
L3Harris is the US military's electronics guy. They make everything electronic and complicated, from handheld radios to motorized camera pods to satellites.
They are the 6th biggest defense contractor in the US but don't have the same name recognition as the 'big five' (Boeing, RTX, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, and Lockheed Martin - listed in no specific order)
Funny story. Chris Kubasik was the heir apparent at Lockheed but got kicked to the curb when he couldn't keep his dick in his pants at work. Ended up getting the CEO job at L3Harris and then what does he do?
L3Harris has been modernizing the communications infrastructure supporting the National Airspace System in close coordination with the FAA. With safety and reliability as our highest priorities, L3Harris, together with its telco partners and the FAA, has completed more than 70% of the planned airspace communications conversion from legacy copper wires to a fiber optic system. We are supporting the FAA in its investigation to understand the conditions that led to the Nov. 13 ground stop of our nation’s air travel. L3Harris takes the nationwide ground stop and its impact on travelers, airlines and air traffic operations seriously.
> “Which begs the question for us: What did L3Harris do? Did they make mistakes yesterday?” Duffy told reporters. “They own this network. They’re our prime contractor. I can’t go somewhere else. They own it. Or was it a faulty router? And we’re going to find that out. And frankly, we’re going to hold people accountable.”
Someone's gotta educate the asshole that the buck stops at him. He is responsible.
he did 100% what this administration does daily: blamed someone else, reassure they will "get to the bottom of it", and that someone will pay the price (someone else). Meanwhile in few days/weeks/months there will be something else to terrorize American citizens with, and 99.9% of citizens will forget about what happened Friday the 13th. Only hope is that we're so close to January and new leadership, that hopefully they won't forget and launch proper investigations. But make no mistake - any other administration if one faulty router would cost $250 million dollars in halting the whole US airspace to stop, at least Sec. would immediately resign!
You think he’s personally responsible for a network equipment maintenance failure, for a project that was apparently already 70% complete and which likely started long before he took office? He’s the head of a government agency, not a network tech.
What exactly do you expect him to do? Put yourself in his shoes.
We plugged the copper wire into the fiber optic terminal because that's what you do when you upgrade wires.
Unfortunately, light didn't move through the copper wire effectively and some meth heads stole the copper wire we had removed, forcing us to upgrade the whole copper wire wire to fiber optic wires.
Our new fiber optic wires carry much more light than the old copper wires, which will make the FAA system much more responsive in the future.
Fun fact: Copper wires work by carrying light. Well, technically it's much lower wavelength than light, but photons are involved any time a signal travels along a copper wire. See also: virtual photons
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Great first impression from a technical company
I had thought the L3 was from Level 3 Communications and Harris, but its actually L3 Technologies which seems to be a holding company for defense contractors.
So I bought a Fortigate firewall on ebay some years back for a lab device, I password recovered it to break in and recover it, and it came up registered to them, and still under Enterprise license support for like 6mo. Great, that's exactly what I wanted for a lab device! I looked them up to see they were a defense contractor, ok, so more money than brains. I'll take advantage...
That 6mo came and went, and they renewed the support on it for another year, and my firewall saw the entitlement. Even better, I continued to use it. After 4 years finally the device went EOL/EOS and expired with no more support available, I was sad.
Obviously these guys are fsckheads, more money and contracts from friends in high places than brains. This totally explains why the air system melted down!
Palo Alto, Sophos, Cisco, Juniper, UniFi... Anything except maybe Barracuda.
LOL nice
> In 2008, 72 Iraqi civilians sued L3 Services for human rights violations they had endured at Abu Ghraib and other prisons in Iraq, including "torture; cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment; war crimes; assault and battery; sexual assault and battery; intentional infliction of emotional distress; negligent hiring and supervision; and negligent infliction of emotional distress." A settlement was reached on October 10, 2012, which was the "first positive resolution to a U.S. civil case challenging detainee treatment outside the United States in the larger 'war on terror' context".
> In 2012, L3 subsidiary KDI Precision Products participated in the sale of 11,500 JDAM bomb fuzes to Israel, part of a $647 million contract deal. These were among the weapons used by the IDF in the 2014 Gaza War; the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights highlighted the IDF's weapons usages, which included attacks on densely populated civilian areas, as constituting potential war crimes.
> In June 2022, Chris Kubasik succeeded as the Chair following Bill Brown's retirement. That same month it was reported to have held talks to purchase the Israeli company NSO, which builds Pegasus spyware. White House officials heard of the talks and voiced opposition, resulting in L3Harris discontinuing its plans.
> In October 2025, Israel entered into a memorandum of understanding with L3Harris to facilitate the acquisition of new light attack aircraft intended for border defense, aimed at developing the Israeli Sky Warden variant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L3Harris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dome_(missile_defense_s...
Very similar to this, which SpaceX was also involved in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Falcon_Project
Funny story. Chris Kubasik was the heir apparent at Lockheed but got kicked to the curb when he couldn't keep his dick in his pants at work. Ended up getting the CEO job at L3Harris and then what does he do?
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/17/l3harris-ceo-chris-kubasik-l...
Not "very seriously." Just "seriously."
Someone's gotta educate the asshole that the buck stops at him. He is responsible.
What exactly do you expect him to do? Put yourself in his shoes.
Unfortunately, light didn't move through the copper wire effectively and some meth heads stole the copper wire we had removed, forcing us to upgrade the whole copper wire wire to fiber optic wires.
Our new fiber optic wires carry much more light than the old copper wires, which will make the FAA system much more responsive in the future.
Thank you very much and have a nice day.