Just something my friend and I did this weekend. A stupid idea, but has the elements of what a real site could consist of. Payments, Datastorage, a pretty decent design.
Hey, good question. So we ended up using Parse really because thats the first one that came to mind.
I didn't want to evaluate which is the better choice given our time. I knew about Parse through word of mouth but never used it, so we just decided to give it a try.
But thanks for introducing me to Cloudant, seems very cool.
Haha! Thats what were hoping for :). The people who've signed up, were going to start randomly checking their accounts from tonight so fingers crossed!
It seems like poor form to post publicly the names of people who are using your app because they admit they've lost a bit of control over some part of their lives.
I'd make that optional.
If it is optional already, make it obvious that it is optional so that you don't lose conversions on the front page.
You have a point I agree, we did have an option before but opted to take it off at the last minute. Reason for that was we thought, hey its a name, were not linking it to their page or anything. Lots of people have the same name.
But I see where you are coming from. Time to make some changes :)
Doing it in 3 hours is cool, but not really sold on the concept. A better model would be to monitor rate of facebook activity (logins, posting, messaging). There's a difference between using Facebook as a service and being addicted to it...sometimes FB is the best way to reach people (who for some reason don't want to use email anymore). The addiction part comes when you are constantly posting and "liking" and responding, at random intervals throughout the day (i.e. when you have a spare moment with your phone).
Thats a great idea. We were originally going to let the user use Facebook authentication and do something there, but we didn't have time to implement all that.
But going forward, if we actually want to keep the website up, then your idea would make sense to implement and see how fast we can do it.
Ha, I knew someone would bring that up. No, obviously not. But my expertise are in ColdFusion, and now Node.js for the past year, so compared to ColdFusion Node.js is a breeze.
Heh, I found this amusing "We also obviously built this on Node.js, anything else and it would take to much time to configure or setup." Couldn't you just use a lightweight Ruby or Python framework (e.g. Sinatra)? And wouldn't any simple data-store do? I'm surprised you even considered MongoDB...
For me, when doing Node development, usually my first instinct is to go for MongoDB. I guess my post conveys that thought. But sure we could have used any simple data store, and we did (parse).
As for Node.js, as I previously said in another comment, I am a former ColdFusion developer, so again I bring many biases from that platform and found Node.js to be super simple to use.
I'm not a Ruby or Python developer but I'm sure it would have taken someone with those skill sets equally as fast.
The noble thing would be to donate the money to charity. It doesn't feel right to monetize on people's addictions, even if they themselves make the conscious decision to accept the challenge.
I suggest you make a note of it somewhere. I went on the site and was thinking "Where is my money going? If they just pocket it then I'm getting swindled." It may be cheesy, but I think it's worth mentioning that you aren't pocketing it =].
I like how they talk about it as if not using Facebook is some extraordinary privation. I havn't used it for two years, and I officially closed my account a year ago.
I closed my account over two years ago, and it really can be a hardship for some people. If you're a non-smoker, it's hard to understand how being without a cigarette can be an extraordinary privation.
It's not like going without cigarettes, but it's like refusing to have a cellphone or voicemail.
Social events? Nearly every event I attend, I'm invited to via Facebook.
Family announcements? If there's a new baby in the family, I know about it because of Facebook. (My wife's third cousins twice removed will not call her to let her know, nor would I expect them to.)
I think it's more like going without cigarettes, in that it's an enormous amount of useless crap information, some of it downright deceptive (i.e. applications posting as your friends), randomly sprinkled with tidbits that are slightly interesting, somewhat important, and rarely, downright vital. You have no idea what's going to come out the next time you hit F5, so you keep hitting it over and over again, although the vast majority of the output is garbage.
It's a trained addiction, rather than a targeted means of communication like cellphones, voicemails, or emails.
Caring that your wife's third cousins twice removed have had a baby, and feeling like you have to know about it right after it has happened - that's a symptom of facebook, not a problem that facebook is solving.
(Jetstrap creator here) - it's pages, layouts, and navs all with Bootstrap. Think being able to drag and drop bootstrap components to a page and export the HTML code.
Thanks! Jetstrap was really core to this. We just dragged and dropped a few things, and boom we have a decent looking website. The only HTML I did touch on this website was when adding handlebars to do the dynamic stuff. Jetstrap just made everything so easy.
- Change your password to something random, store it in 1Password
- Don't remember password in your web browser
- Log out, only login if you really need to
- Delete mobile app. Being bored on the bus is a great excuse to check Facebook. Also, you won't have to face their idiotic ads
- Keep the Messenger app, enable push notifications. "I have to read my messages" won't be an excuse anymore, because you would have gotten a notification.
- Email people at their.name@facebook.com. You will get the response back in your inbox. (If you're using Mountain Lion, you can set up contacts sync and have Facebook emails of your friends in your Contacts.)
- If you need IM, use Jabber protocol. Log in with your.name@chat.facebook.com
- If you're a member of some important groups, create an account with no friends with only purpose to be member of those groups
I have this acquaintance that only uses Facebook for messaging. She never posts anything, never comments, she is just somehow resilient to its charm. I admire her endlessly for that, and I wish I had never succumbed to that notifications icon.
Being bored on the bus is a great excuse to check Facebook.
If you don't waste time checking FB when you're bored on the bus, you'll waste time checking twitter, news, pinstagram, etc. Instead, plan to use that time by reading something you enjoy. If it's FB then why is that bad? It's moot from a productivity perspective.
Cool idea, I'd up the stakes, and say that if you complete the challenge, you get a share of the money from the people who didn't complete the challenge
Give me a choice of charities (or open source projects) that my money goes to (or is shared amongst), and take a cut for yourself. I'll be into you for thousands in no time.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 91.7 ms ] threadI didn't want to evaluate which is the better choice given our time. I knew about Parse through word of mouth but never used it, so we just decided to give it a try.
But thanks for introducing me to Cloudant, seems very cool.
If it is optional already, make it obvious that it is optional so that you don't lose conversions on the front page.
But I see where you are coming from. Time to make some changes :)
But going forward, if we actually want to keep the website up, then your idea would make sense to implement and see how fast we can do it.
Thanks Danso for the advice.
really? node.js is the only way to deploy a web app quickly?
As for Node.js, as I previously said in another comment, I am a former ColdFusion developer, so again I bring many biases from that platform and found Node.js to be super simple to use.
I'm not a Ruby or Python developer but I'm sure it would have taken someone with those skill sets equally as fast.
We didn't write it on the website because we felt it would be too cheesy.
EDIT: Change made.
Social events? Nearly every event I attend, I'm invited to via Facebook.
Family announcements? If there's a new baby in the family, I know about it because of Facebook. (My wife's third cousins twice removed will not call her to let her know, nor would I expect them to.)
It's a trained addiction, rather than a targeted means of communication like cellphones, voicemails, or emails.
Caring that your wife's third cousins twice removed have had a baby, and feeling like you have to know about it right after it has happened - that's a symptom of facebook, not a problem that facebook is solving.
But, especially now that we have RescueTime integration, I think our solution is better! Here's what RescueTime generously said about using Beeminder + RescueTime for this kind of thing: http://blog.rescuetime.com/2012/11/27/give-your-productivity...
- Don't remember password in your web browser
- Log out, only login if you really need to
- Delete mobile app. Being bored on the bus is a great excuse to check Facebook. Also, you won't have to face their idiotic ads
- Keep the Messenger app, enable push notifications. "I have to read my messages" won't be an excuse anymore, because you would have gotten a notification.
- Email people at their.name@facebook.com. You will get the response back in your inbox. (If you're using Mountain Lion, you can set up contacts sync and have Facebook emails of your friends in your Contacts.)
- If you need IM, use Jabber protocol. Log in with your.name@chat.facebook.com
- If you're a member of some important groups, create an account with no friends with only purpose to be member of those groups
I have this acquaintance that only uses Facebook for messaging. She never posts anything, never comments, she is just somehow resilient to its charm. I admire her endlessly for that, and I wish I had never succumbed to that notifications icon.
Good luck.
If you don't waste time checking FB when you're bored on the bus, you'll waste time checking twitter, news, pinstagram, etc. Instead, plan to use that time by reading something you enjoy. If it's FB then why is that bad? It's moot from a productivity perspective.
Give me a choice of charities (or open source projects) that my money goes to (or is shared amongst), and take a cut for yourself. I'll be into you for thousands in no time.
Then delete your Facebook! I did it a year ago and I've never looked back.