I wasn't trolling, I voted for the guy (and fully did anticipate the reactionary karma downvotes) but I think it was a legitimate criticism of him that he's never had to run anything bigger than a senate office and I think it's showing here.
I don't think anyone would argue that he's done a good job across the board of picking people since it usually takes the press one or two weeks to find major gaps in their resumes.
OT feature request: Would it be possible to add a little more head-space above [deleted] comments? When I first read your response, I was confused because the comment before it did not seem particularly inflammatory, and it was only later that I saw that yours was in response to a [deleted] post.
When the raid story first broke here I wrote this comment in that thread...
"More to the point, the Obama administration could have the worst vetting team in the world and they'd still be smart enough to ask the FBI if they had any active investigations on the appointee. It's too rudimentary a step to skip."
I'm still sure the vetting team checked specifically into Mr. Kundra but I have to admit this makes them look a tad incompetent. They may not be the worst vetting team but the fact that the President seemingly didn't know this was coming does not reflect well on them or the Administration.
(In my original comment I assumed the vetting team knew this raid was comming but disregarded it because there were no direct ties to Kundra)
I would argue that the vetting team should have discovered this right away. But it was responsible of him to suspend him and reevaluate his decisions. There is also the possibility that this was simply a political attack to discredit the Obama administration. God knows politics are a messy messy game.
Can the vetting team ask the FBI for information on an active investigation on one of its job candidates? The FBI should never answer such a question and the mere idea they ever could is a bad sign the Bush administration did some very serious institutional damage.
Last I checked, the FBI was part of the Executive Branch and answered completely to the president.
There's no special agency that doesn't answer to anybody. As president, Obama is also responsible for enforcing laws. He has every right as part of the vetting process to give law enforcement agencies veto ability (or not).
There are some special rules for the Office of Public Accountability, but they're for investigating officials already in power. Even then, I don't think you get around the Executive Branch running the FBI. The president, as chief law enforcement officer, can muck around in any ongoing investigation he deems he should.
That's not true at all. I'm guessing the last you checked was never, since a simple Wikipedia query would dispel that notion.
Despite being part of the criminal division of the DoJ (and therefore under the Attorney General who is appointed by the President) the FBI's governing body is Congress.
However he does have some pretty broad vetting tools. I believe that is generally coordinated by the Secret Service, who has access to all levels of police report. It's therefore almost inconceivable that they didn't know about this.
The FBI was created by the Justice Department. It is entirely inside the Executive Branch. Its leader, like other cabinet officials, is appointed by the president and confirmed by Congres, although he serves a 10-year term. As Nixon clearly demonstrated, the heads of these agencies serve at the pleasure of the president (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/water...) More recently, Clinton got rid of Sessions http://www.slate.com/id/2066861/
Like all Federal Agencies, the FBI has close relations with Congress, which approves its budget, tells it how to operate, and investigates any wrongdoing. But policy decisions -- how to execute the laws in place -- are made solely by the President.
But none of that looking told me anything I didn't already know.
No, I think it is pretty clear they are. He's already tried to appoint about 5 tax cheats, most of whom were shot down because of that (I think Gheitner had some tax problems but was still confirmed).
This has to be one of the most amusing cabinet appointment periods in history. I forget how many train wrecks it took, but eventually I started laughing out loud over the new ones.
It seems impossibly hard to find "clean" upper level government employees in Washington. This should really be more of a concern talking point with us citizens.
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[ 1124 ms ] story [ 488 ms ] threadI don't think anyone would argue that he's done a good job across the board of picking people since it usually takes the press one or two weeks to find major gaps in their resumes.
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"More to the point, the Obama administration could have the worst vetting team in the world and they'd still be smart enough to ask the FBI if they had any active investigations on the appointee. It's too rudimentary a step to skip."
I'm still sure the vetting team checked specifically into Mr. Kundra but I have to admit this makes them look a tad incompetent. They may not be the worst vetting team but the fact that the President seemingly didn't know this was coming does not reflect well on them or the Administration.
(In my original comment I assumed the vetting team knew this raid was comming but disregarded it because there were no direct ties to Kundra)
There's no special agency that doesn't answer to anybody. As president, Obama is also responsible for enforcing laws. He has every right as part of the vetting process to give law enforcement agencies veto ability (or not).
There are some special rules for the Office of Public Accountability, but they're for investigating officials already in power. Even then, I don't think you get around the Executive Branch running the FBI. The president, as chief law enforcement officer, can muck around in any ongoing investigation he deems he should.
Despite being part of the criminal division of the DoJ (and therefore under the Attorney General who is appointed by the President) the FBI's governing body is Congress.
However he does have some pretty broad vetting tools. I believe that is generally coordinated by the Secret Service, who has access to all levels of police report. It's therefore almost inconceivable that they didn't know about this.
The FBI was created by the Justice Department. It is entirely inside the Executive Branch. Its leader, like other cabinet officials, is appointed by the president and confirmed by Congres, although he serves a 10-year term. As Nixon clearly demonstrated, the heads of these agencies serve at the pleasure of the president (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/water...) More recently, Clinton got rid of Sessions http://www.slate.com/id/2066861/
Like all Federal Agencies, the FBI has close relations with Congress, which approves its budget, tells it how to operate, and investigates any wrongdoing. But policy decisions -- how to execute the laws in place -- are made solely by the President.
But none of that looking told me anything I didn't already know.
No, I think it is pretty clear they are. He's already tried to appoint about 5 tax cheats, most of whom were shot down because of that (I think Gheitner had some tax problems but was still confirmed).
This has to be one of the most amusing cabinet appointment periods in history. I forget how many train wrecks it took, but eventually I started laughing out loud over the new ones.
The headline seems misleading since "suspension" implies a punitive action.