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glad to see a climate change post that is not denial, which seems to be the hallmark of nickb/pg and other horatio algers hellbent on selling you a rosy future.

I don't know whether the numbers in the post are correct since I'm still hoping for a sub 450 solution and can't be bothered for the moment to consider other scenarios.

in any case lets not forget that all that desertification and other ways of fucking with nature (ocean acidification!) means NO FOOD for x% of the world's population, i.e. mass starvation.

most "industrialized" folks somehow seem to suffer from some irrational smugness that they won't be part of those x%.

I live where climate change based desertification started 10 years ago. in sudan it's already killed 100,000+ people. in california it only started 3 years ago so people are still in denial.

Humans are going to come into this climate change crisis and muck it all up just like they did the financial crisis.

Many of the scientists and promoters of the idea that humans caused and can undo global warming have million and billion dollar stakes in the public believing them. Their jobs rely on the idea that we can do something. Their solar panels are paid for with earmarks. Their hybrid cars drive in the HOV lanes (like mine)...

These global warming charlatans deny that the power of the sun is billions of times stronger than all our power plants combined. They deny sun spots. They deny that, according to their own charts, carbon dioxide levels rise /after/ temperature changes.

And the worst part is, /if/ they are right and we stop producing CO2, we also reduce global dimming, which may be protecting us from the sun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming