I have two depending on who I give it to - Newsletters and Signups or people I hardly want to hear from = GMail.com and a Google App one for those I actually want to hear from
I have my own domain that I use as my primary email address, but it redirects everything to my GMail inbox. Just as a safety net if something goes horribly wrong.
I don't really care about Gmail 'features' that I will be missing out on, spam detection is probably the thing I'll miss the most, but that's a tradeoff I can live with.
Other than that, there's the thing that I need to trust my VM provider, but that much easier than trusting a data mining conglomerate with your private conversations.
In the end, self hosting an email server isn't that big of a deal to set up and maintain.
Spam is really the only reason I haven't switched over to self-hosting at this point. Does anyone know of a good service or method to provide similar spam protection that google provides?
I used to believe that spam detection was the critical component that would be difficult to replace, but going back about a year now I don't believe that's true any more.
I've even seen Gmail mark its own address confirmation mails as spam, along with many mails from people I frequently converse with.
It's a gmail address I made when I started using internet (I am 20). But I also have google apps from my domain and every email goes back and forth b/w my gmail and apps account and then to a frequent local backup and obviously one on my website's servers. Just in case google decided to ban my account, no data will be lost.
They've reimplemented their web interface to be all AJAXy since few months ago with discussion view and all similar to the old Gmail. Although I'm IMAP user, I don't feel their new web interface is lacking anything.
You can setup your own domain with Fastmail with the $39.95/yr plan.
For those that say yes, is there any reason that you don't get a personal domain, forward it to gmail.com and have Gmail send outbound with your domain?
Mails forwarded to gmail.com are still on Google's servers, isn't it? And they can use it for their data mining if they want. So, I decided against forwarding.
No. Using email with your own domain is very important, especially if you use it for contacting a real person: it unties your email address from a provider. The biggest benefit is that you could switch provider very easily without ever changing your email.
Once you've done so, it no longer matters which email service you are using. If the service ever decided to shut down or shut you off, you can just switch to another service without ever worrying about losing contact.
It goes the same for websites. I used to have my blog on a tumblr subdomain until I wanted to move it to my own domain and hosting. You just can't do a 301 on a tumblr post.
That's another thing to consider, but depends on the case: if the domain is left expired, there's 45 days after expiration to renew and another 30 days Redemption Grace Period before it's actually deleted. If the domain is "hijacked" (unauthorized transfer), then the registrar is in violation of ICANN policy[1]. If the registrar decided to shut down for some reason, you can still always move your domain to another registrar.
Yes. I don't care at all about the privacy. I do care, very much, that a lot of my digital life is tied to a Google account, and losing that account will effectively kill my online presence. (see, for example, people who've had their Google account hacked and then lost everything else.)
There doesn't appear to be an easy way to export all of that stuff. I'd really like a way to export all my logins and passwords to a CSV file. Yes, I'm aware just how risky storing that file is - I can encrypt it and store it on a USB stick; print it out and keep it in my 'read on death' file with my will; etc.
Yes I do... kind of. My personal email is everything that really is personal. Stuff like my twitter account and my github account. For everything else, I use another email address (@fine.io)
Can we have a third option? "I use the gmail service to read my email, but I either use Google Apps for my own domain or forward all my email to gmail."
Yes, but I'm going to change, because I don't trust "Google stability" anymore. And if account will be banned for some reasons or accidentally - it can be problem too.
Personal domain hosted by (free) Google Apps. I'm looking to move away but I don't want to host myself and I can't find anyone decent.
I want to use Gandi email hosting as I've used them before and they seem pretty reliable - however to do that I'd need to transfer my domain from 123-reg and because it's a Spanish domain, it's a bit more difficult. I'd use 123-reg's email but I don't really trust them.
If anyone knows any good email hosting providers, please reply with recommendations.
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Other than that, there's the thing that I need to trust my VM provider, but that much easier than trusting a data mining conglomerate with your private conversations.
In the end, self hosting an email server isn't that big of a deal to set up and maintain.
I've even seen Gmail mark its own address confirmation mails as spam, along with many mails from people I frequently converse with.
Here is one with virtual domains, etc. might be overkill for your usecase though.
http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze
I personally run a stack over courier and some other hacks ontop of rdeliver, which works really nicely.
Important: Please always make sure to check that you don't run an open relay.
[1] http://www.fastmail.fm
What about the interface(webmail I mean)? Wasn't very encouraging at I had tried their service some time back.
You can setup your own domain with Fastmail with the $39.95/yr plan.
Just because my hosting providers ATMail Open service blows, ridiculously difficult to use on iOS, and a hell to setup in a mail client.
Then untick 'Treat as an alias'. I remember having the same issue with 'via ...' and I think doing this did the trick.
It was much easier to pick a team and run with it.
I picked Google.
Not sure what that means. How does a self-hosted email address lead to confusion? Confusion by who for what?
- Some sites will attempt to use the first part of your email address as your username.
- Foreign domains are difficult to explain to people who don't understand.
- People expect you to say a your username at a domain they have heard of.
- Anything other than .com is confusing.
eg: johnasmith@gmail.com is easier for humans to digest and computers to parse than john@johnsmith.net or john@smith.be or john@smith.me.uk
Once you've done so, it no longer matters which email service you are using. If the service ever decided to shut down or shut you off, you can just switch to another service without ever worrying about losing contact.
[1]: https://www.icann.org/en/help/dispute-resolution#unauthorize...
Free, too, from before they cancelled their free plans.
There doesn't appear to be an easy way to export all of that stuff. I'd really like a way to export all my logins and passwords to a CSV file. Yes, I'm aware just how risky storing that file is - I can encrypt it and store it on a USB stick; print it out and keep it in my 'read on death' file with my will; etc.
http://www.dataliberation.org/
I want to use Gandi email hosting as I've used them before and they seem pretty reliable - however to do that I'd need to transfer my domain from 123-reg and because it's a Spanish domain, it's a bit more difficult. I'd use 123-reg's email but I don't really trust them.
If anyone knows any good email hosting providers, please reply with recommendations.