After a dozen or so years of pack-a-day smoking I quit by just switching to nicotine gum. You can get a big kick out of one of those whenever you need it, and I was very liberal with them and probably actually increased my nicotine intake heh. After a couple months of gum I moved over to patches and then after a month or so I started forgetting to put them on.
It's about a year and a half since then, I still get cravings occasionally but they can be beaten by going for a walk and sucking up some second hand smoke.
For any smokers out there reading this and thinking, 'God I will never quit if I have to spend the rest of my life resisting the urge for a cigarette', like this article says, note that it doesn't have to be that way. I quit smoking six months ago and every day without cigarettes is a blessing. I _hated_ smoking, and I wanted to stop, and for years and years I couldn't stop. And then I did, and I am free, and it is wonderful. Why the hell would I want to go back to the thing that I hated and was killing me, like this person? If you see cigarettes for what they really are, as a non-smoker sees them, how could you ever want to smoke?
These arguments come from Allnn Carr's stop smoking methodology. You can read his book or do a seminar. And for those out there who say 'it doesn't work': I read that book the first time in 2003, and probably more than ten times since. I attended the seminar three times. It was finally the online seminar that made the ideas click for me. (The breakthrough was the realisation that the response that says 'I want a cigarette' is a broken thought process that was learned, i.e. is not natural, and can be unlearned.) Now that the ideas have clicked into place for me I am absolutely certain I will never smoke again. When I hear the 'I want a cigarette' thought, I don't have a melancholy response that I can't smoke. I hated smoking! I have a happy response that I have learned how to get back to very close to the state I was in before I ever smoked at all.
Anyway, I am sure this article is well-intentioned, but I would strongly strongly suggest that if you haven't tried Allan Carr's method you give it a shot, and if you have tried it, give it another try. Smoking is a nightmare from which we all can awake.
If you hate smoking then it makes sense that when you manage to shake the addiction you'll be glad about it. Many smokers, myself included, enjoy cigarettes. I'm quitting currently, but if I could get rid of the health risks then I'd keep going forever even if I wasn't addicted.
Have a look at the book or seminar - the enjoyment of cigaretts is dealt with at length and forms a core pillar of the argument. If you don't want to quit though, then you don't want to quit and nothing is going to make you open the book with an open mind.
What do you mean "see smoking as it really is"? Obviously we do see the negatives, otherwise we wouldn't quit at all. That doesn't change anything about the fact that smoking can be an extremely enjoyable activity.
I moved onto smoking e-cigs. That was quite easy really. If you haven't had luck with other ways to quit smoking, then getting your hands on some vaping gear might be something worth doing.
Not the guy you were replying to, but I use a Tesla with a Fahrenheit/Rainbow RBA running some local custom juice. It's nice to be able to wind my own atomizer coils at my desk.
Well, it's a sort of mix and match thing if you get into it. You stick the batteries and tanks (or there are are little things that you just stick a drop at a time into) together to get what you want. There are pre-made ones that they sell in petrol stations and the like which look kinda like cigs, but that can be a really expensive way to smoke.
I've got a eGo twist as a battery (you can alter how much power it gives you depending on how you like the vapour and you can screw a wide variety of attachments on) and a ViVi Nova for the tank part.
If you're looking to get into it I'd recommend ordering something like that online, with a couple of juices, buying a pack of cigs that you really hate and smoking them until it turns up. :)
They've gone over well with other smokers I know too. My wife quit for a year, then was back to smoking, saying it helped with work stress, but she is fine with e-cigs since we tried those. Hell, even I take a few puffs nowadays if I'm exhausted from working all day and need to hit a club with her or something. It's basically transformed it into the same as getting a cup of coffee, but easier.
I cheated and used Chantix to quit after a 20 year pack-a-day habit. After dozens of failed attempts it was super-easy to quit on this drug. I'm not sure why everyone doesn't use it, it's a miracle drug.
Agreed but I'm sure everyone doesn't need to use it as not everyone smokes :P
I quit earlier this year with the help of it. Actually everyone I know who ever used it successfully quit. The biggest thing I ever heard (and experienced) with it was strange and vivid dreams.
Still now I have vivid dreams of smoking a cigarette weekly (or more). Hoping that passes.
Also the suicidal thoughts. My neighbor was on chantix and ended taking his life. Not proof that they are related, or wouldn't have happened if he had not been on the drug.
I think that depends on the person. I used Chantix and it was very easy to stop smoking. The hard part was not picking it back up again.
For weeks I had to fight habits: I needed something in my hand, I felt 'hungry' no matter how full I was (after eating smoke), I was watching a movie, etc.
After a couple of months the majority of the triggers are gone but occasionally I still find one. When that happens it isn't as hard because I broke so many of the other habits I know it will pass.
OTOH I enjoyed smoking, but I had to quit because I can't afford it and my other half is an ex-smoker.
I've been stopped for 3 years, I smoked 20 a day for 12 years prior to stopping.
Stopping was difficult to do but I'd been thinking about it for a while and my mother getting diagnosed with a heart problem (she's smoked since she was 16) was a good incentive so I picked my 30th birthday and just stopped.
I initially used gum to manage the cravings but after a month or so I kept forgetting to pick the gum up or simply ran out so I stopped buying it.
For the first year or so I used to get sporadic random cravings (but I just visualized my mother on a heart machine clearly in my mind each time, talk about negative re-enforcement) but they've gone now.
My GF continued to smoke throughout before and after I quit which in theory should have made it harder but in reality actually worked in my favour after a month of not smoking the smell was nauseating.
I put quite a bit of weight on while I was stopping which took a while to lose but other than that and not getting a chest infection the last 3 winters (where I'd usually had one or two a year in the previous decade) I've not noticed much difference in my health.
I smoked cigarettes for around 15 years. I had a terrible habit of 2 packs a day. I would constantly chain smoke. When I decided to quit, it was honestly pretty easy. I gave up social drinking, which I used to go out on an almost daily basis. My blood pressure is a lot better now, and I used to have a really bad temperament. For all the people who are trying to quit, good luck to you!
I quit after 5 years of smoking regularly with an extra year in there failing to try to quit. The second time i quit was much more a mental thing than physical. Truly randomly, my friends suggested at dinner that we quit and never smoke again. I'd tried to quite before and tried to warn them how hard it is, but the idea of never touching it again seemed reasonable.
Six years out, I'll say this. The "knowledge" of the smell never goes away, but the craving does, slowly. That is, I smell it, and I remember what it means, I know I want that sensation, but at the same time, I've had my peace with it and know it's not not for me anymore.
On very rare occasion, i'll end up inhaling tobacco (if it's combine with something else that i rarely smoke) without my knowledge. At this point the sensation is very very uncomfortable. While it is pleasurable, it's totally overwhelming, my heart races and everything is too intense for a couple minutes. Very odd feeling.
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[ 5.0 ms ] story [ 59.0 ms ] threadIt's about a year and a half since then, I still get cravings occasionally but they can be beaten by going for a walk and sucking up some second hand smoke.
These arguments come from Allnn Carr's stop smoking methodology. You can read his book or do a seminar. And for those out there who say 'it doesn't work': I read that book the first time in 2003, and probably more than ten times since. I attended the seminar three times. It was finally the online seminar that made the ideas click for me. (The breakthrough was the realisation that the response that says 'I want a cigarette' is a broken thought process that was learned, i.e. is not natural, and can be unlearned.) Now that the ideas have clicked into place for me I am absolutely certain I will never smoke again. When I hear the 'I want a cigarette' thought, I don't have a melancholy response that I can't smoke. I hated smoking! I have a happy response that I have learned how to get back to very close to the state I was in before I ever smoked at all.
Anyway, I am sure this article is well-intentioned, but I would strongly strongly suggest that if you haven't tried Allan Carr's method you give it a shot, and if you have tried it, give it another try. Smoking is a nightmare from which we all can awake.
I've got a eGo twist as a battery (you can alter how much power it gives you depending on how you like the vapour and you can screw a wide variety of attachments on) and a ViVi Nova for the tank part.
If you're looking to get into it I'd recommend ordering something like that online, with a couple of juices, buying a pack of cigs that you really hate and smoking them until it turns up. :)
You smoke for a week or so when you start, and by the end of that period, you just don't care about cigarettes anymore.
Be careful when you're driving with it though, apparently there is a marked increase in car accidents:
http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/prescript...
Still safer than smoking probably ;)
I found it helps to drink a lot of water as well.
I quit earlier this year with the help of it. Actually everyone I know who ever used it successfully quit. The biggest thing I ever heard (and experienced) with it was strange and vivid dreams.
Still now I have vivid dreams of smoking a cigarette weekly (or more). Hoping that passes.
For weeks I had to fight habits: I needed something in my hand, I felt 'hungry' no matter how full I was (after eating smoke), I was watching a movie, etc.
After a couple of months the majority of the triggers are gone but occasionally I still find one. When that happens it isn't as hard because I broke so many of the other habits I know it will pass.
OTOH I enjoyed smoking, but I had to quit because I can't afford it and my other half is an ex-smoker.
Stopping was difficult to do but I'd been thinking about it for a while and my mother getting diagnosed with a heart problem (she's smoked since she was 16) was a good incentive so I picked my 30th birthday and just stopped.
I initially used gum to manage the cravings but after a month or so I kept forgetting to pick the gum up or simply ran out so I stopped buying it.
For the first year or so I used to get sporadic random cravings (but I just visualized my mother on a heart machine clearly in my mind each time, talk about negative re-enforcement) but they've gone now.
My GF continued to smoke throughout before and after I quit which in theory should have made it harder but in reality actually worked in my favour after a month of not smoking the smell was nauseating.
I put quite a bit of weight on while I was stopping which took a while to lose but other than that and not getting a chest infection the last 3 winters (where I'd usually had one or two a year in the previous decade) I've not noticed much difference in my health.
It worked for me, but none of my friends. Just randomly deciding to never touch i again. A book i read that reminded me of the struggle, oddly enough, is The End of Overeating. http://www.amazon.com/The-End-Overeating-Insatiable-American...
Six years out, I'll say this. The "knowledge" of the smell never goes away, but the craving does, slowly. That is, I smell it, and I remember what it means, I know I want that sensation, but at the same time, I've had my peace with it and know it's not not for me anymore.
On very rare occasion, i'll end up inhaling tobacco (if it's combine with something else that i rarely smoke) without my knowledge. At this point the sensation is very very uncomfortable. While it is pleasurable, it's totally overwhelming, my heart races and everything is too intense for a couple minutes. Very odd feeling.