Youtube requires age verification if you want to see "adult" videos. I guess that many people want to browse that kind of content anonymously, so requiring the same on tumblr could cut the traffic a lot.
Weirdly, if its embedded it won't ask you to login. No age verification required.
So if you are paranoid and don't want to log in and start getting those videos in 'recommended for you' list. Just take the embed code put to it a .html file and open.
What's porn and what's not is fairly subjective. I suspect the R-rated video for "Who's your Daddy" by Benny Benassi would be considered porn by some. Note: Both the R and PG-13 versions are (or were) on youtube.
Also note the definition of pornography does not include nudity.
Sure there are some things that some call art and some call porn. There are some things that some call sex education and some call porn. There are some things that everyone calls porn. Go to xtube.com and you can find lots of things that no-one will disagree is porn. So what do you do about that sort of content on tumblr or any other site?
(For the record, I'm pro-porn and pro-sex, sex is great!)
Actual adults aren't the only ones browsing the Internet. If my children can have pornographic content suggested while viewing an otherwise "reputable" site it makes monitoring their usage much harder.
Expecting that minors will respect an "adult" label is laughable, and anybody suggesting so knows it. It only takes a moments ill conceived curiosity to see something that will stay with a kid (or a person in general) forever.
Personally I hope that a company currently lead by a woman takes a hard stance on this issue.
Flickr and Tumblr have more in common than just the inability to buy a vowel. If the kind of things I've seen on Flickr have been allowed to exist for years under the Yahoo umbrella, I can't imagine that Tumblr's risque content is in any danger.
I found "compromising" pictures of a friend of a friend on flickr once. That having been said, it was shocking to find it on flickr, I can't think of any other time I saw content anywhere near that "vulgar". Certainly in my experience, flick is like .5% as "porny" as tumblr.
Flickr has a massive amount of hardcore jpgs. That's where a lot of the images posted on Tumblr come from. Flickr just does a decent job of hiding it from the average user.
Here is a good (and mostly SFW as far as images) Flickr group that advises on how to work within Flickr's terms of service: http://www.flickr.com/groups/unsafe/
This is not even close to being the real problem, imho.
According to Google AdPlanner, Tumblr has between 14 million unique visitors per moth and between 5 and 10 million page impressions a day. Seriously, how does that justify this kind of a value for the company?
They do 65x million uniques per month and 5.4x billion pageviews.
The most concerning thing for Tumblr, is the fact that they've had zero net growth in traffic and uniques over the last year. And their monthly pageviews are down 2 billion versus a year ago. Their traffic is likely done growing. If Tumblr doesn't sell now, they're in deep shit.
Tumblr directors have given go signal to Yahoo offer. Now it's up to Yahoo director when they meet on Sunday
Forbes' Jeff Bercovici reported
Tumblr's board of directors
approved Yahoo!'s offer and the
Yahoo! board is expected to go along with Mayer's wish to buy
Tumblr. There's still a little room for
things to fall apart, but it's unlikely
that's going to happen. So no, the
Yahoo! deal will likely not be falling
apart.
Okay - why porn is even problem? The people in 18-45 group have grown with porn, they have voluntarily and involuntarily seen and read porn they like, porn they don't like, kinky porn they like, kinky porn they don't like, they have been goatse-d, japanese whale-d, two girls one cup-ed and either don't mind porn or have become completely desensitized towards it.
And lets be honest a lot of top advertisements have not threaded carefully into innuendoland.
It shouldn't be one. But don't forget the effect of a corporate setting, which leads to people trying to behave like adults. Add american prudence (is that the right word?) concerning even nudity in the media, lawyers trying to protect the company and pr-people doing the same with a focus on public opinion. So I find it not hard to believe that the porn on tumblr will become an issue for them.
Interesting, I've never seen porn on flickr. On the web porn is probably indeed never further than 3 to 4 clicks away so flickr likely is no exception but it depends very much on how you use the web. Unless I'm researching something I don't dive deep or follow many links so when someone asks me to look at a picture on flickr and then I leave again.
Are there any figures on what the percentage of adult content is on flickr?
When you have content filter off in the settings, usually a few clicks through groups, user profiles or favorites would lead you to explicit content and from there to really raunchy stuff. Safety filters on Flickr work really well, but try searching e.g. "wife" with Safe Search off, and the result will be very representative.
I have no figures what share of that is porn, but since (as an active user of the site) I stumble on it there without even looking I'd say it's very substantial.
Why would Tumblr be singled out when Bing gets away with it? Bing goes so unnoticed that their image search is practically a porn engine (if you turn off safe search), and I've never heard an outcry about that.
Every female celebrity or politician has "nude" or "naked" somewhere in the suggested searches. To illustrate my point, do a Bing image search for Bill Clinton. Next, try it for Hillary. Not quite as bad, but try image searches for Barack and Michelle Obama. The top three suggestions for Michelle are Ass, Booty, and Butt. They may argue that they're just reflecting what users search for, but I have trouble believing that a lot of people are out there looking for nude photos of Nancy Pelosi.
The difference is that Tumblr is hosting the material, whereas Bing is indexing it. And, if you do a search from Bing (or Google, for that matter) from Singapore, the results are quite tame, whereas the tumblr website appears the same.
I do get your point though - Google has, as of late, even with safe search off, made it much more difficult to "trip across" porn on the internet (you really have to be looking for it) - whereas with Bing, it's basically, "We'll show you porn if there is a faint chance that it's relevant) - I.E. "redhead."
I tried a Bing image search for Michelle Obama. The suggestions I get are: wedding dress, craig robinson, 2007, dess, swimsuit, fashion, eyeroll, pregnant. And I turned off safe search.
Porn isn't the problem with Tumblr. The problem is copyrighted content.
In my experience, Tumblr is primarily a platform for young people to "reblog" (i.e. publish and distribute) copyrighted content without the owners' permission.
I'm not sure if that's such a big problem. Unlike with the movies and music industries, there's no big well-funded photography association that can "push" Yahoo beyond the requirements of the DMCA.
It's not so much re-blogging that's the problem but the "blogging" i.e. uploading it to tumblr in the first place. If a photo is already on tumblr, re-blogging doesn't really make another copy, it's all just links from then on.
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Also note the definition of pornography does not include nudity.
(For the record, I'm pro-porn and pro-sex, sex is great!)
Expecting that minors will respect an "adult" label is laughable, and anybody suggesting so knows it. It only takes a moments ill conceived curiosity to see something that will stay with a kid (or a person in general) forever.
Personally I hope that a company currently lead by a woman takes a hard stance on this issue.
Here is a good (and mostly SFW as far as images) Flickr group that advises on how to work within Flickr's terms of service: http://www.flickr.com/groups/unsafe/
According to Google AdPlanner, Tumblr has between 14 million unique visitors per moth and between 5 and 10 million page impressions a day. Seriously, how does that justify this kind of a value for the company?
They do 65x million uniques per month and 5.4x billion pageviews.
The most concerning thing for Tumblr, is the fact that they've had zero net growth in traffic and uniques over the last year. And their monthly pageviews are down 2 billion versus a year ago. Their traffic is likely done growing. If Tumblr doesn't sell now, they're in deep shit.
Forbes' Jeff Bercovici reported Tumblr's board of directors approved Yahoo!'s offer and the Yahoo! board is expected to go along with Mayer's wish to buy Tumblr. There's still a little room for things to fall apart, but it's unlikely that's going to happen. So no, the Yahoo! deal will likely not be falling apart.
And lets be honest a lot of top advertisements have not threaded carefully into innuendoland.
The word you're looking for is "prudishness."
While a smaller corp may ignore the issue, yahoo is big enough that it's guaranteed to have to pay attention to these things.
(Also: I have never heard of "japanese whale" and it worries me)
So I think nothing will change.
Are there any figures on what the percentage of adult content is on flickr?
I have no figures what share of that is porn, but since (as an active user of the site) I stumble on it there without even looking I'd say it's very substantial.
Every female celebrity or politician has "nude" or "naked" somewhere in the suggested searches. To illustrate my point, do a Bing image search for Bill Clinton. Next, try it for Hillary. Not quite as bad, but try image searches for Barack and Michelle Obama. The top three suggestions for Michelle are Ass, Booty, and Butt. They may argue that they're just reflecting what users search for, but I have trouble believing that a lot of people are out there looking for nude photos of Nancy Pelosi.
I do get your point though - Google has, as of late, even with safe search off, made it much more difficult to "trip across" porn on the internet (you really have to be looking for it) - whereas with Bing, it's basically, "We'll show you porn if there is a faint chance that it's relevant) - I.E. "redhead."
In my experience, Tumblr is primarily a platform for young people to "reblog" (i.e. publish and distribute) copyrighted content without the owners' permission.