I like the look of it. However, before I give you access to my data some more information on how it works, who you are, why I should use it, etc. would be nice.
That said, I hope you this gets traction. We need more options.
Hey there, good questions! I'm a developer in Toronto, Canada and I love to ride bikes and write code. I work at a place called Unspace (http://unspace.ca/team), I'm the third one down (Jamie Gilgen).
Yoleo is a self funded project. I would like to keep it that way if I can. That's why donations are very welcome. I do however offer Yoleo up for free for those who are unable to pay. Yoleo is written in Ember, and is backed by Rails.
I'm really into Ember, and helped out out by teaching a portion of the most recent Embergarten (http://unspace.ca/embergarten/) here in Toronto.
The import is a simple one click import, I've directly integrated with Googles Reader API.
This is true. Also, you should be redirected to https when you go to /account if things are working how they're intended. I don't run the full thing through SSL quite yet, because I pull in content from lots of different sources (images, for example), and that would cause SSL warnings.
I have something in mind for this, but haven't gotten around to implementing it yet. Full SSL is coming.
Looks beautiful, interesting pay model. Seems like enough people still use RSS readers...
Just 2 feature requests:
1.) Let us change the one color :) That red is pretty, but distracts from the content. Dustin Curtis got this right on his minimalist design in that the one-color isn't used in the actual content.
2.) Responsive design: Iv'e been removing apps from my phone for weeks and I couldn't be happier. Far less annoying update badges. Also, as something that is open all the time it would be great to keep it in a smaller window than the current design allows.
I would probably start with removing the red from the titles first. Removing the red completely would take away from the overall design which is too nice to mess up.
I always think a straight forward headline/copy relationship should be achievable with spacing, and maybe font-size before adding bold or a color.
If it's still too much (remember, this is an every day kind of app!) maybe the active links on the right could go non-red, then if it's still too much the border-left on the active links on the right.
Again, grats on shipping something that looks good.
If we're picking this battle up, can everyone also argue a bit about the backend? I've been with Django for years, but I'm tempted to get back into Rails with how well it seems some of the JS frameworks are supported.
It would be nice the possibility to import also from other sources other than Google. At this point many people stopped updating their feed on Google Reader.
Yeah, I moved to self-hosted Tiny Tiny RSS after Bloglines went down. OPML import would be great. On the flip side, OPML export is also a requirement for me - I don't want to re-enter all of my feeds.
Clever name! I pressed "import" and it claims to be importing my feeds from Google Reader, even though I never gave it a password or feed or connected through Google. I wonder how that works...
This looks pretty fantastic. I've been searching for a good browser option outside of Feedly, which just doesn't do it for me. I agree that more information about the product and the people behind it would be nice, however, I'm still eagerly signing up when I get a chance today. :)
Is a website, is beautiful, is easy to use, has an API. You've hit on the first three, so when the API becomes public, I am so using this.
Are you hosting this yourself? Do you expect $9/year members to adequate cover the costs? I'd totally be willing to pay more if it means I don't have to suffer through another shutdown.
A few people have mentioned wanting to donate more. I could make a few more options for the donation amount. I figured I was on the high end at $9/yr. People don't like paying for software anymore.
Hey Jamie - it'd be great if adding a subscription was a little more intelligent re: RSS url discovery. For example, I initially entered `daringfireball.net` and got a URL misformatted error. I subsequently tried prepending http:// - when really I needed to include a fully qualified path to the feed in the first place.
Otherwise, happy to import from Reader and check this out. I like that it feels light and easy to use.
You should be able to enter a bare url. I looked into it and daringfireball.net doesn't provide a rel="alternate" for their rss feed so my little feed discovery ditty won't work for them.
Instead of calling it a donation, just call it the 'pro' version and add like a supporter badge on the header or let them do something silly like change the color of their header like on HN. Will probably get more funds that way and won't get cynical people to roll their eyes at questionable use of the word 'donation' whether it is or not.
That's the point - the "pro" version only gives you a silly, feel-good feature, but it (might) increase revenue when people feel they're actually getting something.
"I wanted to offer the service to people that might not be able to afford it, and not have them punished by having fewer features."
That's neat, why don't consider some kind of sponsorship program? A user that can pay, can sponsor one or two more users who can't, that would be nice :)
It's difficult to scale an RSS reader as you could quickly start having to crawl orders of magnitude number of feeds more than you are now as you get more users, if power users like your thing. I know because I worked at Bloglines. You're either going to need money or you will shut it down eventually.
Alternatively, keep calling it a donation and let people donate whatever they want, with $9 as the minimum. A good RSS reader is worth a lot more than $9 a year to some people.
Yeah, but we're all geeks here. It can't be that hard to splice together some custom CSS to make hacker news look like whatever you want. Let me just click view source and OH GOD PG FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY WHY ARE YOU USING NESTED TABLES IT'S 2013!!?!?!!111questionmark!
Actually this has been asked here before and pg himself did answer the question [1] (you may have to scroll a little to see pg's response). pg also argues in one of his essays [2] that tables are the (lisp) lists of html, being very dynamic and flexible which is perfect for explanatory programming despite being unclear (in its purpose/structure) sometimes.
I agree with this. PLEASE make a paid version, otherwise your project will end in the same place where all those other free RSS readers ended: in archive.org
The problem with these kind of services is that if they are free, a lot of people won't pay for them and might use so many resources that the money paid by the few people who donated or paid will not be enough to sustain the service.
Sorry for the tone, but I am so tired of seeing lots of mini-web services turned off because they were free... Nowadays I downloaded Vizzy for Mac: although it is not the most pretty RSS reader, I know it will be working forever.
Hats off for the notification that popped up as I was trying to import telling me that HN traffic bogged you down. That was very classily and well done.
For me, it wasn't just that it popped up a notification, it's that hitting the arrow on the popup gives you a reply-to window with the text of the notification already filled in. Really made me feel welcome.
It looks like she's using http://intercom.io for the notifications. We use them at http://circleci.com and they've been hugely valuable for getting feedback.
Import doesn't work, but the notification system is very sweet and unexpected. Can't wait to try this out with all my feeds. So far none of the 'son of reader' offerings have really done it for me.
It looks nice, but I personally prefer more readable font. Source Sans looks gorgeous, but maybe use 400 instead 300 on body text. Or use darker color.
It looks nice, and at this point in time, this is what I'll probably be using next month.
A few things:
* Is there a way to scroll through all items in the same way that Google Reader does, rather than having to go to the next item by clicking (or hitting "j")? Feeds with lots of images suffer from the current approach, since there's a delay when each item is loaded (preloading them, say, five items in advance works well).
* Hitting keyboard controls like "j" when Firefox's "search when you start typing" is turned on doesn't work. I think you need to return false in the keypress event handler (or whichever one it is).
* I would suggest changing the body font to black with a weight of 400. I have Source Sans Pro installed, and at 300 #606060 it's too light (in both senses of the word). It looks nice enough, but the main purpose of this is for reading, so using the most legible font possible should be a priority. (Tip: 15px Arial looks a lot nicer than 16px, IMHO. It's what I was using when I made 90% of a feed reader.)
* Yep, just hold "n" or "space" and you'll scroll through the articles
* I'll look into that.
* I'll try to gather some more feedback to what people think about the font. Perhaps it would make sense for this to be configurable.
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 237 ms ] threadThat said, I hope you this gets traction. We need more options.
Yoleo is a self funded project. I would like to keep it that way if I can. That's why donations are very welcome. I do however offer Yoleo up for free for those who are unable to pay. Yoleo is written in Ember, and is backed by Rails.
I'm really into Ember, and helped out out by teaching a portion of the most recent Embergarten (http://unspace.ca/embergarten/) here in Toronto.
The import is a simple one click import, I've directly integrated with Googles Reader API.
You should use it....because it's good?
Hope that helps!
I have something in mind for this, but haven't gotten around to implementing it yet. Full SSL is coming.
https://github.com/atmos/camo
There's also a Go (golang) port:
https://github.com/cactus/go-camo
I'm currently using go-camo in my own feed reader and have experienced some flakiness (images fail to load sometimes).
(Also, nice work!)
I thought Stripe blocked that specifically.
* Option to hide any unread feeds on sidebar (totally essential for me) * Unread count on feeds with new items * Ability to edit and rename folders
If any of these are there already.. I can't find em. Thanks for this great-working and great-looking site though!
Just 2 feature requests:
1.) Let us change the one color :) That red is pretty, but distracts from the content. Dustin Curtis got this right on his minimalist design in that the one-color isn't used in the actual content.
2.) Responsive design: Iv'e been removing apps from my phone for weeks and I couldn't be happier. Far less annoying update badges. Also, as something that is open all the time it would be great to keep it in a smaller window than the current design allows.
Great work!
I always think a straight forward headline/copy relationship should be achievable with spacing, and maybe font-size before adding bold or a color.
If it's still too much (remember, this is an every day kind of app!) maybe the active links on the right could go non-red, then if it's still too much the border-left on the active links on the right.
Again, grats on shipping something that looks good.
Are you hosting this yourself? Do you expect $9/year members to adequate cover the costs? I'd totally be willing to pay more if it means I don't have to suffer through another shutdown.
Otherwise, happy to import from Reader and check this out. I like that it feels light and easy to use.
I wanted to offer the service to people that might not be able to afford it, and not have them punished by having fewer features.
That's neat, why don't consider some kind of sponsorship program? A user that can pay, can sponsor one or two more users who can't, that would be nice :)
I don't want to differentiate people who can't pay.
Sorry, blacked out for a minute there.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=100460 [2] http://paulgraham.com/arc0.html
The problem with these kind of services is that if they are free, a lot of people won't pay for them and might use so many resources that the money paid by the few people who donated or paid will not be enough to sustain the service.
Sorry for the tone, but I am so tired of seeing lots of mini-web services turned off because they were free... Nowadays I downloaded Vizzy for Mac: although it is not the most pretty RSS reader, I know it will be working forever.
I don't see a way to arrange the folders though, which would be a big plus. If I can force an order through some naming convention that's OK too.
<a> -> enter url -> <enter> should be all that's needed to add a feed.
A few things:
* Is there a way to scroll through all items in the same way that Google Reader does, rather than having to go to the next item by clicking (or hitting "j")? Feeds with lots of images suffer from the current approach, since there's a delay when each item is loaded (preloading them, say, five items in advance works well).
* Hitting keyboard controls like "j" when Firefox's "search when you start typing" is turned on doesn't work. I think you need to return false in the keypress event handler (or whichever one it is).
* I would suggest changing the body font to black with a weight of 400. I have Source Sans Pro installed, and at 300 #606060 it's too light (in both senses of the word). It looks nice enough, but the main purpose of this is for reading, so using the most legible font possible should be a priority. (Tip: 15px Arial looks a lot nicer than 16px, IMHO. It's what I was using when I made 90% of a feed reader.)
Love it though! Will definitely use :)