Hey, this is neat! One note: Hitting "reset" doesn't immediately reset the move counter; I have to hit "undo" afterward to get it to actually go back to 0.
Thoughts: after clicking, sometimes I decide I want to cancel drawing from that point. I can click on the original point to cancel, it would be nice to be able to press ESC or SPACE to cancel drawing (just noticed that Z for undo cancels).
For the "game" side, it is very important to have simple tasks that almost all players can complete to get started. I would add an even simpler first challenge, such as make two overlapping circles.
I would love to be able to share constructions. I'm thinking a button I press that pops up a URL that I can share. When visited it shows an animation drawing the construction, then when done lets you do more drawing. That would be cool.
The URL in the location bar seems to update with the steps you've done (here's one showing the first construction: http://www.sciencevsmagic.net/geo/#0A1.1L0.1A0.3L0.3L1). Undo/Redo can then give an animation like appearance.
I've added the esc and space to deselect, and shift+redo. Thanks, once you get used to your own hotkeys it gets hard to imagine what other people might want.
As for the hash, the original reason why I went with hash= was to preserve back and forward, but I guess that might not be so necessary considering I have undo and redo.
I know that my clutter can be a bit obnoxious, but just changing it to window.replace(hash) breaks a few other things, so it's left the way it is for now.
There is probably some HTML5 history API way to do it that lets me have back and forward without saving every history entry, I'll look into it.
Great tip. But I generally only use each reference once, so I'm not sure it would have been worth it in my case.
There are lots of libraries that could have made things more convenient. But a big part of this project was to learn as much as I could about coding, and the browser as an environment, so early on I committed to writing everything myself.
I'd be interested in hearing whether or not other people think this is a good strategy for self teaching.
+1 on doing everything yourself the first time for self-teaching. But I'm sure people are on the far end of both sides -- do it all yourself, or use libraries for everything.
>There is probably some HTML5 history API way to do it that lets me have back and forward without saving every history entry, I'll look into it.
Do you mean the Back & Forward buttons in the browser?
If you can go back/forward to different states, why wouldn't those show up as history entries? I don't think you can decouple the displayed "history" drop-down list from the behavior of the back/forward buttons (for reasons that are probably obvious).
Gauss' breakthrough occurred in 1796 when he was 19. He showed that any regular polygon with a number of sides which is a Fermat prime [p = 2^(2^n) + 1] (and, consequently, those polygons with any number of sides which is the product of distinct Fermat primes and a power of 2) can be constructed by compass and straightedge.
This is damned cool. Having something like this makes it easy and convenient to explore geometry without the inconveniences imposed by physical media. Having specific goals to work towards and target move counts is icing on the cake.
Thank you for making this. Find a way to get this out there to geometry teachers. They (and their students) will love it.
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Suggested improvements:
+ Option to switch between a couple colors or line types, to make it easier to track what one's doing. (E.g., laying down foundational lines in black, then experimental lines in blue or dashed lines.
+ One minor thing I'd like to see fixed: the proximity of the numerical goals to the shapes they're associated with doesn't make it clear whether (e.g.) the 8 move goal is an easy version of the "build a triangle in X moves," or whether 8 moves is the least amount of moves for building a triangle inside an origin circle.
Suggested fix: make that more apparent by tweaking the order of the symbols (e.g. Triangle, 5, 8, OriginTriangle) and/or adding a divider of some manner to make them stand apart more.
Thanks, the phrase "origin circle" did not suggest that meaning to me at all. I thought maybe it meant that it had to be at the origin, but i couldn't figure out where that was.
Love it! But I am having a hard time figuring out when exactly I can/can't "pick up" a point from somewhere else: sometimes tick marks appear at the distance I'm looking for, sometimes not. Also, it seems odd that I can't just draw a line (as opposed to line segment), since iirc the straightedge is theoretically infinite. (There are definitely a few times I've wanted to lay down the full line traversing two points, for later use in the construction....)
EDIT: it looks like the tick marks are the straight line extensions; if so, it's exceedingly strange that I can use them "for free" (without drawing the line) as, say, guides for the radius of a circle (I can't put the centre there, but I can "end" the circle there), but I can't just have the line itself.
It's great. I wish I had something like this back in higschool when learning geometry; doing it on paper with the accumulating inaccuracies and no undo option made it all much less fun than this.
If you want to go farther: a powerful, open, and fully-featured tool for doing this on the desktop (and soon tablet), along with a CAS and other facilities is GeoGebra: http://www.geogebra.org/cms/en/
If you want to go deeper: http://www.woodenbooks.com/ which are, for want of a better term, 'rigorous mysticism.'
I love this! Only complaint is that after playing for a few minutes, my browser's back button is completely worthless. Web is such a hacky place to develop.
(1) Geometric stained glass windows. Anyone know how to cheaply source/cut coloured glass? Best mechanism for rounded portions of potential framing? I don't mind if it takes awhile to build, just that it sustains the weight and enough wind. Preferably thicker rather than thinner glass.
(2) Might be useful for some 3D printing based crafting projects.
An option to export SVG would be useful (and feasible, given the vector nature of construction).
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For the "game" side, it is very important to have simple tasks that almost all players can complete to get started. I would add an even simpler first challenge, such as make two overlapping circles.
I would love to be able to share constructions. I'm thinking a button I press that pops up a URL that I can share. When visited it shows an animation drawing the construction, then when done lets you do more drawing. That would be cool.
It's just a new condition in onkeydown:
While we're at it, make Shift+z redo. And let's not clutter up the user's history. Swapping with fixes that one.It's the little things in life, man…
As for the hash, the original reason why I went with hash= was to preserve back and forward, but I guess that might not be so necessary considering I have undo and redo.
I know that my clutter can be a bit obnoxious, but just changing it to window.replace(hash) breaks a few other things, so it's left the way it is for now.
There is probably some HTML5 history API way to do it that lets me have back and forward without saving every history entry, I'll look into it.
There are lots of libraries that could have made things more convenient. But a big part of this project was to learn as much as I could about coding, and the browser as an environment, so early on I committed to writing everything myself.
I'd be interested in hearing whether or not other people think this is a good strategy for self teaching.
Do you mean the Back & Forward buttons in the browser?
If you can go back/forward to different states, why wouldn't those show up as history entries? I don't think you can decouple the displayed "history" drop-down list from the behavior of the back/forward buttons (for reasons that are probably obvious).
http://html5doctor.com/history-api/
Not as good as Guass though :)
Gauss' breakthrough occurred in 1796 when he was 19. He showed that any regular polygon with a number of sides which is a Fermat prime [p = 2^(2^n) + 1] (and, consequently, those polygons with any number of sides which is the product of distinct Fermat primes and a power of 2) can be constructed by compass and straightedge.
Thank you for making this. Find a way to get this out there to geometry teachers. They (and their students) will love it.
--
Suggested improvements:
+ Option to switch between a couple colors or line types, to make it easier to track what one's doing. (E.g., laying down foundational lines in black, then experimental lines in blue or dashed lines.
+ One minor thing I'd like to see fixed: the proximity of the numerical goals to the shapes they're associated with doesn't make it clear whether (e.g.) the 8 move goal is an easy version of the "build a triangle in X moves," or whether 8 moves is the least amount of moves for building a triangle inside an origin circle.
Suggested fix: make that more apparent by tweaking the order of the symbols (e.g. Triangle, 5, 8, OriginTriangle) and/or adding a divider of some manner to make them stand apart more.
http://www.sciencevsmagic.net/geo/#0A1.1A0.0L2.0L1.1L2.1L6.2...
http://www.sciencevsmagic.net/geo/#0A1.1A0.2A0.0L2.2L7.4L1.1...
Scratch that - the same thing works if rotated:
http://www.sciencevsmagic.net/geo/#1A0.0A1.2A0.1L5.2L0.0L9.9...
Arg I think it might be too big for the in original circle challenge. Darn it, how do you do this one?!
Here's how I did it.
Side note: You should add "Square the Circle" as a super bonus ;)
EDIT: it looks like the tick marks are the straight line extensions; if so, it's exceedingly strange that I can use them "for free" (without drawing the line) as, say, guides for the radius of a circle (I can't put the centre there, but I can "end" the circle there), but I can't just have the line itself.
If you want to go deeper: http://www.woodenbooks.com/ which are, for want of a better term, 'rigorous mysticism.'
(1) Geometric stained glass windows. Anyone know how to cheaply source/cut coloured glass? Best mechanism for rounded portions of potential framing? I don't mind if it takes awhile to build, just that it sustains the weight and enough wind. Preferably thicker rather than thinner glass.
(2) Might be useful for some 3D printing based crafting projects.
An option to export SVG would be useful (and feasible, given the vector nature of construction).