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Microsoft to Implement HTML5 Canvas? (processingjs.org)

12 points by f1lt3r ↗ HN
I got in touch with Pete LePage, a Project Manager for the Internet Explorer team and asked him whether we could expect to see the Canvas in IE9. Here is what he said: http://processingjs.org/blog/?p=30

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mahmud
WOW! The author links to a Microsoft community feed-back page where people can vote on web standards they want Microsoft to implement/comply-with! And the author says "It worked with True Type", meaning TT fonts where added after community outcry?

Why on bloody earth wasn't this exploited? why can't Microsoft take the pulse of the web developer community and .. do the right thing on its own without having to be told?

pierrefar
26 steps? Typical of Microsoft, and anyone who isn't really interested in listening.

Thanks, but I hope IE just dies and we can get on with our lives. It's already becoming irrelevant, and that's just fine by me.

maukdaddy
This is the second day in a row I can use the same comment! Products with >50% market-share are not irrelevant; they are VERY relevant. And as much as you might hate it, IE is not just going to die.
Hexstream
On the other hand, irrelevant products with disproportiate marketshare inevitably lose marketshare eventually. And the more marketshare you have, the less you can gain and the more you can lose.
riffic
again, more does not mean better. relevance and quality go hand in hand.
mahmud
Mediocre products with huge market penetration are more likely to die a horrible death because: 1) they have maxed out their growth potential, and there are fewer and fewer converts for them to target. 2) since their quality is bad, better competitors are likely to gain viral growth by only contrasting themselves to the mediocre status-quo; its name recognition will be used against it and its brand sabotaged (i.e. "Like X but doesn't suck", "a better X", "an X with ..", etc.)
halo
It's only Microsoft who can make a product with "only" 65% market share and have people describe it as 'becoming irrelevant'.
run4yourlives
Last year it was closer to 85% of market, so the description is pretty accurate, really.
halo
Only if you abuse your statistics and choose numbers from different sources - 65% is the lowest figure for present market share and 85% is the highest for last year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers).

It's true that Microsoft are losing marketshare with IE, I'm not denying that. But I seriously doubt it's "becoming irrelevent". It's much easier to lose marketshare when you dominate a market than it is to gain it, they now have increased high-profile aggressive competition on Windows from both Apple, who are bundling Safari via iTunes Update, and Google, who are pushing Chrome on OEMs and via their search engine. Microsoft also have no version of IE for rival operating systems, particularly at a time when Apple's desktop market-share is increasing, so clearly if their desktop market share drops by 5% in a year, then that's up to 5% fewer people running IE. I actually think IE's usage figures have held up surprisingly well, considering.

pierrefar
@halo and @maukdaddy: the trend of marketshare of IE is downwards. It's not irrelevant now (I never said it was) but it's already becoming irrelevant: It's marketshare is going down with no obvious response from MS to stop this trend.
audionerd
Does it really take 26 steps to suggest a feature for Internet Explorer?
ihumanable
The title is a little bit misleading, better title, "Microsoft rep responds with boiler-plate about how you can go through some byzantine process to put a comment on a forum about a situation that everyone is well aware of."
Entlin
How long until somebody creates a wrapper that automates this into a neat 1 step process? :-)
bradgessler
It would be interesting to not just track % of browser marketshare, but also track the derivatives of marketshare. With this data web developers could more accurately determine how much they should invest in making a web application work with older browsers.

Does anybody know if this data exists somewhere already?

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