Ask HN: How are venture capitalists compensated?

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Does anyone have ballpark numbers for how venture capitalists are compensated? When their portfolio company gets bought/sold what percent of the venture capital firm's equity stake goes the vc himself/herself?

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You're probably better off googling how VC works, but AFAIK all of the equity would be effectively owned by the limited partners so the VC can't really take it. The VC's profit comes from carried interest.
The firm overwhelmingly makes two and twenty.

Two: The firm charges a management fee based on committed capital. The typical rate is 2% per year. So, if they're running a $100 million fund, they transfer $2 million from the limited partners (the investors) to themselves every year. The management fee theoretically pays for salaries and those costs which can't get passed to startups the firm invests in. (I say "theoretically" because there is an inflection point in the hundreds of millions in fund size range where the management fee is so large that one cannot possibly spend it all except by increasing salaries, such that partners no longer need to be successful in investing to do well.)

Twenty: VCs receive a percentage of the "carry", which is the capital gains on the fund's investment. My understanding is this is typically due upon an individual investment's exit or the end of the fund's life, whichever comes first, but don't trust me on the micromechanics of that. If a VC firm invests $20 million in a company and it later sells for $60 million (their share), the gain is $40 million, so $8 million gets taken for the VC firm and then $32 million is split by the limited partners.

This is compensation for firms. Compensation for partners and associates are handled differently. Typically, associates are on straight salary. (Want a ballpark number? "Well-off lawyer.") Partners typically both have a salary (Want a ballpark number? "More than anyone in the Valley who is not CEO of a public company.") and take home a percentage of the carry (the twenty). Which partners get what percentage is a matter highly specific to the firm's internal structure: suffice it to say that it is good to be king in a lot of places.

Much like law firms, the main form of professional advancement at VC firms is to claw one's way from associate to partner, at which point things get radically more financially rewarding. (The alternative is to build up relationships with wealthy people and then go into business for yourself, by convincing 5 to 20 people to stake you with a few million dollars apiece.)

n.b. It is common for senior partners in the VC fund, particularly those who have successfully lead funds before (many VC firms manage multiple funds, each with a 10 year life and, say, 3-4 years between start dates), to have money invested in the fund themselves. This is generally a fairly modest amount of money relative to fund size.

In your example don't you mean 32mil to the firm and 8mil to the partners?
No, he meant what he said: the firm is the VC firm and the limited partners are the investors behind them.
If you really are a capitalist; your reward is the growth in capital. If you are an agent working for some capitalists then you get whatever you bargained for. This question implies that capitalist collude or that some elite U. grads are unionized to set wages. Which is essentially what both groups are are trying to do; but view the status quo with this lense.