Ask HN: Burning idea for a story you've always wanted written?
I'm looking to write a novel but still searching for a satisfying seed idea. Maybe you have one?
(Yes, I'm basically crowdsourcing ideas for a book).
(Yes, I'm basically crowdsourcing ideas for a book).
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Alternatively, outsource several trillion monkeys to type apparently random characters until you are left with a work that is more intelligent than Huxley, more potent than Shakespeare, and wittier than Stephen Fry.
It started yesterday so possibly that's what inspired OP's question.
All I can remember is that it was a 3/5, would probably read again.
If the demons bringing in souls should somehow create a bubble with a grand new scheme that's guaranteed to bring many souls, but then fail, the soul futures market would crash with catastrophic results.
You could make a hilarious book satirizing the mortgage crisis or the dot-com bubble this way. (Something like Good Omens, but financial.)
I have all sorts of notes on how this could work, but no idea how to write a novel with them.
This also lets you make jokes at the expense of religious revivalist movements ;-).
It's a terrific book, and a very fresh concept. I highly recommend it, especially if you like world building.
Since it involves programmers, you might want to consider including some deliberate loopholes, or even make it highly obfuscated.
For those interested in the surprising answers (and many more): if I hit 25 points by 9pm EST, I'll write the book.
P.S: I have been thinking about this one for a while, but don't have the courage to write it down right now.
I imagine a city where every day one person is selected at random who will die in 24 hours and is told so. (I got this particular idea from another story, but lots of story ideas are fundamentally the same.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz
* edited for more inclusive language.
The source story does not have to be a work of fiction. You can use a true story, the benefit of this being that there are no plot holes. Scandals are a good place to start, particularly if the true story involving real, living people is too libel-likely to be given an 'honest' treatment. Scandals mired in waves of disinformation are pretty good too.
By taking the story out of the true context and setting it in another time and place you can possibly do a better job of telling the truth than you would be able to do otherwise.
For instance, you could take the Iran-Contra affair and set it in colonial times, as if it happened during the Opium Wars (for example). To get started you could start with the standard 'Wikipedia' telling of events, search and replace your characters so 'President Reagan' becomes '[King Whomever]', same with dates, same with locations. This could then serve as your rough draft. You could then quickly establish if the story actually worked. Then you could tighten up the story a bit, get someone else to read it and see if they thought it 'was true'. If so then you have got to a reasonable start point. Your full research could then begin, proper history stuff, filling in gaps and embroiderising as required. It is important that you learn more and more about your target time and place, you don't want those who know better to see your work as horribly naive.
Some of your embroiderisation can be stuff that you cannot say in your 'target' story, for instance I am sure there is an Israeli angle to the Iran-Contra story that, if told truthfully, would brand you anti-semitic, worse than Hitler etc. However, set in a different time and place you could write whatever was 'true' as 'fiction'.
There are other emergent properties of taking one story and time-warping it to somewhere else. The protagonists could get dehumanized, corrupted, revealed to be ruled by superstition and so on. Within the context of the true story and the morals of our times this might not be so evident. However, after the transposition, whatever it is that makes your characters (good and bad) may be a lot clearer to see. On the Iran-Contra example, you could take today's arms-trade and how that corrupts power and put it in context of the slave-trade of yesteryear. In the 'Opium Wars' example you could probably find a fit with indentured labour in India.
In summary, take a story you like, some history you know, mash it together and there you go, novel written.
You should have started this exercise in October. Anyway, here's mine:
The current iteration of God and Satan (or whatever fictional supernatural character you choose) BOTH suddenly go AWOL and throw the entire system of heaven and hell into a quandary. Turns out they are both vacationing on Earth on some remote island, spending their days fishing and drinking beer.
Romantic twist: One is male, the other female and it turns out they have eloped and plan to spend the rest of their lives together.
Thriller twist: They get fascinated by the concept of zombies and start creating a zombie army to serve their needs. The existence of Earth is threatened.
Sci-Fi twist. Heaven and Hell are singularities at the two ends of the universe. Thanks to the disappearance of the two, the singularities are unstable and about to collapse into one unholy (pun unintended) mess.
S&S twist: God and Satan are names of Dragons who copulate and the eggs they lay create new universes. Them going AWOL is a traditional indicator of the end of one universe and the beginning of the next.
ASOIAF twist: Each religion gets to be God and Satan for a specific period of time. The current iterations (the ones that have gone AWOL) of God and Satan are killed and the blame is laid squarely on the representatives of one of the religions. Other contenders to the thrones of Heaven and Hell emerge.
Take your pick? :)
Now that you mention it, I wonder if I should ditch my current concept altogether and try this one out instead. Very tempted... :D
Reminds me a little of my favourite series of comics ever, Preacher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preacher_(comics)
2. Legion of Creation: I read a 2009 Wired review [1] of the films (unrelated) Legion [2] and Creation [3]. Not realizing the article was reviewing two separate films, I thought it was describing a single film about an angry God sending an army of angels to assassinate Charles Darwin and cover up his theory of evolution. It sounded like a more interesting film than either Legion or Creation, so I imagined a mashup called Legion of Creation. :)
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_%28smuggler%29#Coyotes
[1] http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/09/legions-tattooed-ange...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_%282010_film%29
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_%282009_film%29
2. sounds hilarious and difficult, especially given that I am not all that well-versed in Biblical mythology. Maybe with Indian mythology...
Haven't seen either of the films you mentioned, but they sound very intriguing. Will check them out one of these days, thanks! :-)
REAL HUMAN: A robot masquerades as a human being to avoid decommissioning.
Plot spoiler: there are no humans left, only robots pretending to be human. Even robots need a class system.