It's nice but if you ever even appear to cut into their ad model they'll shut ya down. Gotta pay the engineers, other employees, electric bill etc.... youtube ain't free ;)
EDIT: I really like the site & hope you flesh it out. Just not getting my hopes up too high. :)
Nope - they run homepage banners, sidebar ads and occasionally full-page adverts (that hijack the background). It's surreal browsing without Adblock occasionally.
Hmm, interesting. I get sidebar ads occasionally, but I've never noticed the other ones - maybe I just tune them out when I see them. (I use ghostery, but disabled it temporarily for testing this out.)
Ads displayed around the video are almost always tied to the ad displayed on the video and ads displayed on the video are part of the revenue-sharing program.
I've built something a little bit more fleshed out, actually... How about a site that lets you search and watch videos at the same time. And also does Vimeo. And lets you save them to personal collections. Here you go.
http://huzzaz.com/search
Redisplaying YouTube content on other websites is explicitly allowed. Ads run in the embedded player, which they made easily available and usable on purpose.
What is NOT allowed, as far as I know, is using their API and player to make a website that does nothing but show YouTube content.
Last time I checked if all your are doing is repackaging their content but not adding any other content of substance to the page, it is against the TOS. This was a couple years ago but that was my understanding.
It might be, depending on what else is on the page. Clause 4(d) of the Terms of Service[1] reads:
"You agree not to use the Service for any of the following commercial uses unless you obtain YouTube's prior written approval:
- the sale of access to the Service;
- the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions placed on or within the Service or Content; or
- the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions on any page of an ad-enabled blog or website containing Content delivered via the Service, unless other material not obtained from YouTube appears on the same page and is of sufficient value to be the basis for such sales."
I subscribe to Avdi Grimm's excellent RubyTapas series, and the biggest pain about it is the lack of a web viewer. Google seems to be explicitly disallowing him to use YT, and that really sucks. Anyone looking to make and sell videos has to put them on Amazon or whatever and make you download them.
If those videos were available to be purchased from his site, or if you could subscribe to his site to get premium video content, do you think that you would do that?
I already pay nine bucks a month for the subscription. I found user-made scripts to download the files on his site, and did so, but that's not a real solution because I don't like storing that kind of stuff on my laptop, and Dropbox or whatever isn't any better than just getting it from his site, save having them in two places. I'd definitely pay more for a web viewer.
After getting fed up with the ongoing changes to subscriptions I created a barebones tool to act as a replacement. No Google/Youtube account needed, new videos are fetched using the API, setup is git clone and open in browser.
Pro Tip: Just use github pages to instantly give people a demo. All you need for that is to make a gh-pages branch and rename your main file to index.html.
I love it. With all the horrible and bloated changes they have been making, I thought there would be an opportunity to create simpler version of or alternate of YouTube. I guess you are still using YouTube contents so they can block you if they wish.
I still think there is an opportunity to create an alternate video sharing site that's good enough.
Good job, though! I will be using your site instead of youtube as long as your site is live.
As always, I love sites that strip down YouTube. YouTube houses tons of great content; however, they seem to be making their consumers pretty unhappy. Check out http://www.tubalr.com it's my app and focuses on YouTube's music content.
Grats on hitting the front page and I hope you can retain users, its the hardest part about websites like this.
I would use tubalr more often, but whenever I need it, I can't remember what it is called. I've liked you on Facebook, so my usual way of finding it is by going there and finding you amongst my likes.
In other words, you should try to come further up on google searches for "youtube music".
I think this is completely wrong approach. We as a community should stop giving G/YT our traffic if their stuff does not please us instead of making an effort to give them more traffic.
But then you find yourself up against their network effects and more often than not, it goes absolutely nowhere. If you just want a nicer YouTube, step 1 is at least experimenting within the confines of the existing one. Otherwise you'd need to worry about all of the infrastructure and accepting video uploads, encoding, etc. Unless you're on a crusade against Google/YouTube, this is absolutely the sane way of starting out.
This is unreasonable. YT isn't going to disappear. Did myspace? No.
The fact that YT provides an API is plenty to reface it. You should view this website as another from of protest. Which of there have been plenty of protests in recent.
I wouldn't say it's completely different. It certainly is positioned in a completely different way but one can still log in and view their old pages and content.
Sign me up, i want youtube to be killed dead!!!! Youtube is cool but google jumps in and just ruins your experience. They asked me 4 time before to adjust my name and i chose my current username....4 times. Now, for the last two weeks i have been getting this pop again but now i must apparently sign up for G+, when i try and comment, guess what that fu popup again, i cannot comment unless i join G+.I have been just closing the window and saying, "O well that saves me some time wasting at least." Google is now as arrogant as Microsoft was and don't care about what the consumer wants but where they want to push you. I will never use G+, Google will save themselves the distraction by shutting down that crap, but they so blinded by facebook that they losing sight of the actual power they have.
They got this idea in their head that they need to create the complete identity for users to target ads better. This idea came about when the press and pundits where saying that facebook was so valuable because of realnames and user identity. The issue is that it's been proven that you can build a profile from a person's search history, even Target can predict if you are pregnant. So why waste time with this shit, anger your users and destroy your brands value?
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So all you have to do is start a tech company that does this. When Google knock on your doors, with literally one and half billion dollars of Google stock, you have to say "No".
Would you do that? Could you blame anyone else for doing that?
Thanks for mentioning about the company. I've never heard about it until now. Surprisingly enough I had to look at Wikipedia to know what they do and further details. Their website currently gives no clue about anything they do but a new product called "Stories", which for newcomers like me means zilch.
Youtube is a social product and Google+ is a (vastly better) social product. Of course Google is merging them. Google has multiple social services and merges them together. You have multiple Google accounts and... oh. You... don't merge them together. In fact you fight it every day for years. No kidding that at this point, by the time the change has stopped giving you leeway that you're frustrated your protest has stacked up to nothing.
In fact if you merge your Google accounts your protest isn't lost either. Your protest has been and is nothing. It's just in your head. Merge your Google accounts and use Google's social product or don't. If you wanted to protest Google why didn't you just stop using it? Or stop using it now?
Self-host. YouTube produces massive amounts of traffic because it has so many videos. But if you divide all that traffic to small independent operators then the amounts would be far more manageable.
Once you are self-hosting you could alleviate any potential bandwidth issues with a CDN such as CloudFlare/Akamai and/or by using P2P protocols such as BitTorrent.
A bit rough, but yeah. The 3rd world is not yet ready to do this much video, because of mobile data prices. Let's stick to the awesome plain text solutions & low bandwidth media for now. (Canvas, cached SVGs, bluetooth & wifi, etc...) If we stick to text and backwards compatible media we can solve all internet problems by tying phones to balloons.
We should aim to make rms proud, but choose MIT because that code is more easily reusable.
On my recent trip, I wanted to watch some YouTube videos in the air but there wasn't WiFi on my flight. I found an app called MxTube for iPad and it blew my mind how much cleaner, faster, and more intuitive it was than the REAL YouTube app. Added benefit - You can cache videos for offline playback. I happily paid the $1.99 pro upgrade to support the developer.
I mentioned this in another thread but YouTube feather (beta) is pretty much this. It strips down everything but the video and the recommendations on the side. Also it is an official Google feature.
All the videos that require sign in due to "rated content", seems to be not working since they require sign in. I dont even get a sign in option, just "error occurred".
Both this and Youtube's own Feather beta seem to lack support for playlists. I like playlists for listening to music at work, for example Brad Neely's "America, Now" videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPQrXUpvkuc&list=PLD8217FD2EE...). Also useful for watching web series like Marble Hornets. I love a simpler experience, but I think content creators will want playlists.
This is what YouTube should be like (or how it once was actually).
However, I agree with others that building a UI on top of it is not much of innovation. I'd rather see new and better apps instead of new and better props for the old and ugly services.
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What is NOT allowed, as far as I know, is using their API and player to make a website that does nothing but show YouTube content.
"You agree not to use the Service for any of the following commercial uses unless you obtain YouTube's prior written approval:
- the sale of access to the Service;
- the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions placed on or within the Service or Content; or
- the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions on any page of an ad-enabled blog or website containing Content delivered via the Service, unless other material not obtained from YouTube appears on the same page and is of sufficient value to be the basis for such sales."
[1] http://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms
It's by far the best solution I've found since it stays out of the way, and when I click on a Youtube link the page is much nicer.
sent from my 2006 laptop
https://github.com/adabei/tubeless/
I still think there is an opportunity to create an alternate video sharing site that's good enough.
Good job, though! I will be using your site instead of youtube as long as your site is live.
After enabling that I've never looked back. No comments and loads way faster.
Feather Beta doesn't work with the "Play all" links or playlists in general.
I tweet my lists using the hashtag #cueyoutube which means I can always go back and find them later using http://snapbird.org/
https://github.com/saibotd/embeddit
Grats on hitting the front page and I hope you can retain users, its the hardest part about websites like this.
In other words, you should try to come further up on google searches for "youtube music".
I've heard there's a way get your browser to always connect directly to YouTube's servers, but I could never get it to work.
The fact that YT provides an API is plenty to reface it. You should view this website as another from of protest. Which of there have been plenty of protests in recent.
It's not wrong, just a different one.
Yes...?
Not literally, but in many other ways they absolutely fell off a cliff.
They got this idea in their head that they need to create the complete identity for users to target ads better. This idea came about when the press and pundits where saying that facebook was so valuable because of realnames and user identity. The issue is that it's been proven that you can build a profile from a person's search history, even Target can predict if you are pregnant. So why waste time with this shit, anger your users and destroy your brands value?
Would you do that? Could you blame anyone else for doing that?
It can be done.
Because word is he's getting offers for over $4 billion
In fact if you merge your Google accounts your protest isn't lost either. Your protest has been and is nothing. It's just in your head. Merge your Google accounts and use Google's social product or don't. If you wanted to protest Google why didn't you just stop using it? Or stop using it now?
http://9to5google.com/2013/11/11/netflix-and-youtube-account...
Once you are self-hosting you could alleviate any potential bandwidth issues with a CDN such as CloudFlare/Akamai and/or by using P2P protocols such as BitTorrent.
We should aim to make rms proud, but choose MIT because that code is more easily reusable.
http://toogl.es/#/browse
just kidding, great job
Will use this instead of YouTube for a while!
PS Can you make "load more" optional? I just want stuff to be loaded as I scroll automagically. :)
However, I agree with others that building a UI on top of it is not much of innovation. I'd rather see new and better apps instead of new and better props for the old and ugly services.