I don't really agree with the G+ and youtube connection since I haven't seen any quality-improvement in youtube comments(anecdotal), but what _really_ bothers me is the constant popup asking me to connect and the constant rewording/rearranging of said popup. I have to stare at it for like 5 seconds to fully understand & click on the option to avoid the connection.
I already downloaded all my youtube vids from my channel because I assume that one day I screw up and they'll be connected or Google will just force the connection; thus my real name will become discover-able from my youtube channel. If that happens, I'm reuploading to some other video site and closing the youtube channel.
And I can only hope that when I do this closing, I don't screw up and lose my gmail in the process... because that would truly anger me.
I see a popup, I look for how to get past it without contributing data, and if that's not possible I close the tab and do without. This happened while trying to comment on a YT video last night.
Keep in mind that all of these social network companies have a massive weakness: that people might figure out something else to do with their time, that they might choose to, "do without," as well.
Why don't you just connect it with a plus page for your username like it suggests? You don't have to use your real name. I don't know why the myth that YouTube requires a real name is going around even on HN...
I'm glad this is getting attention, however it occurred to me something important has been lost in the whole shuffle: the integration of Google+ and corporate Google Apps accounts.
Many companies pay for the corporate Google Apps service which provides email, calendar, chat, etc. The argument of "you're no longer the customer, you're the product" doesn't apply here, since ... well, you're paying for it. And yet, Google has insisted on integrating Google+ here as well. You can't even fire up your corporate chat which your company pays for without being harassed to create a Google+ account and create some "circles".
Not that long ago, I recommended to anyone who would listen that any small-to-medium sized business should use Google Apps for their email & calendar needs. It was a great service that met all the basic needs without getting the way. Today, I no longer make that recommendation. Instead I tell people to stay as far away from Google as possible, as they clearly cannot be trusted even when supposedly being paid for a premium service. This whole deal is going to be the downfall of Google.
Agreed that's annoying. My Apps account now has a Google+ page. Now I feel obligated to populate it in case a potential client visits it and finds it defunct-looking.
I have books in print that have active communities around them. A generic company page could actually detract from social media discovery for my important pages. This is not a feature.
Indeed; when it became clear Google has completely lost all sense when it came to Google+ I did everything I could to minimize my exposure to them. The only "sticky" thing I touch is Google Groups for the obvious reason.
Google is just shooting it self in the foot with this! First they tried to force people to verify email address with phone number (still do) and now this. There is many reasons why we don't want to use our real names for comments or or phone numbers for verification. #1 been PRIVACY G O O G L E please stop this nonsense or prepare to loose many visitors.
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 34.3 ms ] threadI already downloaded all my youtube vids from my channel because I assume that one day I screw up and they'll be connected or Google will just force the connection; thus my real name will become discover-able from my youtube channel. If that happens, I'm reuploading to some other video site and closing the youtube channel.
And I can only hope that when I do this closing, I don't screw up and lose my gmail in the process... because that would truly anger me.
Keep in mind that all of these social network companies have a massive weakness: that people might figure out something else to do with their time, that they might choose to, "do without," as well.
I think there were ways google could have made youtube comments better without linking them to google plus.
Sure, I won't be able to comment anymore, but I'll survive that.
Many companies pay for the corporate Google Apps service which provides email, calendar, chat, etc. The argument of "you're no longer the customer, you're the product" doesn't apply here, since ... well, you're paying for it. And yet, Google has insisted on integrating Google+ here as well. You can't even fire up your corporate chat which your company pays for without being harassed to create a Google+ account and create some "circles".
Not that long ago, I recommended to anyone who would listen that any small-to-medium sized business should use Google Apps for their email & calendar needs. It was a great service that met all the basic needs without getting the way. Today, I no longer make that recommendation. Instead I tell people to stay as far away from Google as possible, as they clearly cannot be trusted even when supposedly being paid for a premium service. This whole deal is going to be the downfall of Google.
I have books in print that have active communities around them. A generic company page could actually detract from social media discovery for my important pages. This is not a feature.
Maybe Google is "accidentally" breaking them on purpose?
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