Experiments to do with your baby (theatlantic.com)
I'm the author of the book ("Experimenting With Babies: 50 Amazing Science Projects You Can Perform on Your Kid" http://www.experimentingwithbabies.com).
I'm a big HN fan and would be happy to answer any questions!
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 168 ms ] threadI'm a big HN fan and would be happy to answer any questions!
But I actually tried to stay away from topics like this in "Experimenting With Babies," because, well, how many readers are going to be able to experiment on a kid who can read fluently before age 3?
However, if you're interested in learning more about the topic, you might find this resource interesting:
http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10162.aspx
My intuition (based on anecdotes and observations, not hard data) is that nature provides a starting point, and perhaps an ultimate cap or speed limit to growth, but nurture provides the year over year progress. The most successful people I know nailed the nurture (or hard work) part of the equation. They were all at least smart, but very few were the smartest in the room at a young age. Over time they've appeared smarter and smarter to their surrounding audience.
In general, early reading is less remarkable (in English) than people think it is, because with the right materials[1] English can be seen by a young learner as a rather consistent writing system that is not insuperably hard to decode.
That said, my four homeschooled children, the first two of whom are strongly bilingual in Chinese and English, having lived in Taiwan in early childhood, were early but not strikingly precocious readers, and all my children were learning a lot of other things besides reading in their early childhood, of which chess was perhaps more conspicuously precocious than reading. Earliness is less important than long-term solid development of skill, and it sounds like the parents of some of the HN participants here who have personally observed examples of very precocious reading were well aware of that.
[1] http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Your-Child-Read-Minutes-ebook/dp...
http://www.amazon.com/Lets-Read-Linguistic-Leonard-Bloomfiel...
http://eps.schoolspecialty.com/products/details.cfm?serieson...
Another friend of mine found out their son was a reader when he started kindergarten. He was always 'reading' the books in the house, but his parents thought he had just memorised them from being ready. In fact his kindergarten teachers gave him new stuff to read and he lapped it up. He was reading the first Harry Potter book by the second grade. My friend actually got frustrated because his son didn't want to do father/son things, but preferred to read.
Some kids are gifted readers, just like some are gifted at hitting a ball with a bat. The important thing is (a) spend extra time and attention if it is clear they do have a gift and (b) don't feel like your child is somehow behind if there is a kid like this in their class.
Every day from the time I was born, my mother would spend hours reading to me; not just "See Spot Run" level books, but things like the Bruce Coville "Magic Shop" series. Instead of just letting it stay there, she'd ask me questions about what she was reading, and then we'd make up our own stories that riffed on the same concepts/characters/settings. When going to bed, she wouldn't read to me, but rather we would make up our own stories using a theme that she'd select, which forced me to think through things at a higher level.
The one part I wish I understood better was how it went from oral to written, both in terms of reading and writing stories; I remember well her reading to me, but not how it switched to me reading. Regardless, I imagine that the nurture side of things had a huge, huge impact on my abilities, so: thanks mom!
[Edit: Linked her this thread, so I'll update with her thoughts whenever she sees it, if she doesn't comment herself.]
It was important that you understood how to get from point a to b. You were always good at being able to put things together easily. Sequencing and figuring out how a character came to be are elements that are often overlooked. Knowing that 1 story could be many with just a small twist is what the Coville books were so good at. Another thing is that your father and I never talked down to you and allowed you to come to your own conclusions.
But this is heresy without a source.
A couple of weeks of this and they were reading. We continued to read to them but just for fun, for the theatre of it. With voices and acting out, hilarious with young kids.
My youngest got tired of all that and would grab the book and go to his room to read it alone. He was also reading Wizard of Oz when he entered Kindergarten.
Funny, teachers are often highly resistant to admitting any kid is at a different level. They even went so far as to bring in a 'reading expert' to test him. Showed him some stupid picture with a 6-word poem and read it to him, asked him what it 'meant'. Nothing of course. So he 'was reading at a normal 5-year-old level'.
Did they ever just ask him to read a book? No. Why not? What is the deal with teachers? Is it inconvenient to have kids at different levels so they go into denial? Do they feel threatened?
This isn't an isolated case. Its been played out in my experience with my kid and others of my friends. I've been buttonholed by experienced teachers and given a tirade on the evils of teaching kids on your own.
I like teachers, respect them. But they often have a chip on their shoulders, and its holding kids back.
My big experiment with my first born was trying to teach her to count starting with 0 instead of 1. I attempted it for a few months, but ultimately stopped because everyone else around her was counting the typical way and it seemed like it might be confusing to her.. I admit it was a bit embarrassing for me when doing so in the presence of non-geeks.
I'll also go ahead and share a funny anecdote and hope it doesn't come back to haunt her in a decade.. :) We noticed a common side effect of her getting the hiccups whenever we changed her diaper. One day I jokingly said that the first time she ever came home from a date with the hiccups, her boyfriend had better start running.
I'm intrigued by your 0 vs. 1 experiment. I wonder if there is something fundamentally different in how we learn the concept of ordinal numbers (1, 2, 3) versus, say, integers (-1, 0, 1). Usually we teach numbers by counting physical objects, and perhaps it takes a little longer to understand the concept of zero if you're used to counting objects.
I did teach both my children to count on their fingers using the pattern taught by ASL. I've noticed that sometimes her friends look at her oddly when she holds up her index, middle, and thumb for the number three, and obviously, they have no clue that holding up the index, middle, and ring fingers might mean either six or three to her depending on to whom she is talking.
I introduced both my children to an awesome game when they were just in kindergarten: http://www.dragonboxapp.com/ it teaches basic algebraic concepts cloaked in the guise of a fun puzzle game.
I was first taught to count starting from the index finger as well:
fist = 0
index = 1
index, middle = 2
index, middle, ring = 3
index, middle, ring, pinky = 4
index, middle, ring, pinky, thumb = 5
thumb = 6
thumb, index = 7
thumb, index, middle = 8
thumb, index, middle, ring = 9
(I am from Thailand, but I think this is how counting is taught in America as well?)
I thought this was universal until I went to Singapore. I was quite intrigued that in Singapore a "thumb" is not considered a number but rather a signal for "good" and instead they used thumb + pinky for 6. (The rest seems to be the same.)
Not sure why I brought that up, but I guess I had not realized that there was a difference in even the way we counted all around the world until that point.
EDIT: Formatting
There are a few other fancy ways including even binary which could let you count up to 1024 if you could keep it all in your head. :)
The ASL (American Sign Language) method I mentioned in the parent is described here: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/counting-on-numbers-in...
I was a precocious little shit.
Then, when we started playing board games there was an issue playing games like "Game of Goose" because she started counting with 1 in the occupied space. We "fixed" that starting with 0.
fist = 0 index = 1 index, middle = 2 index, middle, ring = 3 index, middle, ring, pinky = 4 index, middle, ring, pinky, thumb splayed = 5 thumb, pinky = 6 index, middle, ring, pinky, thumb all held strait with their pads touching, looking a bit like a shadow puppet of a bird's head = 7 thumb, index = 8 just the index finger, bent in half = 9
Apart from 4 and 5, you can kind of see the link between the written form of the number and the hand signal: 1, 2, 3: obvious because 一二三 6: the thumb and pinky make up the bottom part of the character 六 7: If you look at your own right hand upside-down when making the gesture, the bird's head points in the same direction as the 七 8: Your thumb and index finger are the two lines in 八 9: Your index finger is the second stroke in 九
I don't know whether this is coincidental, or even just my imagination...
Hmm interesting. I have been trying something different as well. I have been counting with fingers with my kid using different fingers every time. The idea is that it doesn't matter to associate a finger with a number as long as the correct number of fingers is up. Like say most people start with the thumb and move left or right. Sometimes I start with the ring finger.
Counting is also fun in general. We count steps, count trees when we drive. I try to never make it about teaching but more about fun.
In written form, for example, we can represent 10 and 20 without 0 easily, as the 0 is just a syntactic placeholder:
- Roman Numerals: X and XX
- Scientific Notation: 1e1 and 2e1
- Base 16: a and 14
- Set theory: {{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}} and {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
But more importantly, the existence of the number 10 is independent of it's representation. Mathematically, the existence of the natural numbers depends on a "unit" (which we often represent with 1) and a method for incrementing or inducing the subsequent number.[1]
0 ensures the existence of groups [2], and by extension many important mathematical structures. I get your point though, and I wonder what would be an accurate, but still relatable, reason for a young person to grasp the importance the number 0?
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_infinity
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(mathematics)
If you have one cookie, and you eat it, how many cookies do you now have?
1 cookie, in my belly. (And then he demanded a cookie.)
I can understand that I have no cookie without counting from the number 0. But why is it important to label nothing, to give it a name and symbol and define its properties?
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_intelligence#Counting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_binary
Both my sister and my partner's sister are expecting shortly. I was happy to place an order for two copies through Amazon. I'm sure it will bring about some chuckles on Christmas day.
[1]: http://scienceblogs.com/mixingmemory/2007/10/03/do-infants-h...
[2]: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.130...
"And along came a spider: An attentional bias for the detection of spiders in young children and adults"
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022096510...
"Preschoolers and adults were asked to find the single spider picture among an array of eight mushrooms or cockroaches or the reverse. Both children and adults detected the presence of spiders more rapidly than both categories of distracter stimuli."
Even if we do innately "recognize" spiders, it is still not going to come with all the semantic content that an adult has when they look at a spider. It's something simpler. (But still amazing in its own way.)
"What is Henry thinking? Why is he looking at me like that? Drink your milk, Henry."
"His intellect is like that of a sentient grapefruit."
Edit: A word
To say that your interest peaked, means the article went down hill from that point on :P
And yeah, I read that joke in one of Ze Frank's voices: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzz6EZmkq8)
- wreak/wreck
- weary/wary
- piqued/peaked
"Why is Henry eating lint off the floor? Science would tell us that there is one correct answer."
I remember taking a psych course on early childhood development in university, and thinking how much fun it would be to have a baby and actually try some of these experiments.
As a new parent, though, I find I have a lot less time than I would have hoped to go trolling through old textbooks for experiments that won't actually just wreck my kid. (Old-school science is kind of awesome in how it disregards that kind of thing)
Anyway, thanks for putting this together. Definitely going to pick up a copy.
By the way, in addition to the 50 science projects, the book also contains a bunch of sidebars, including several I've labeled "Don't Try This At Home," which describe some of the bizarre (and sometimes cruel) old-school science experiments that have been conducted on children.
They range from the weird but generally harmless (simulating entrapment in a refrigerator) to the scar-you-for-life (the infamous Monster Study).
I have a 4.5 yrs old who can understand 4 languages and converse in three of them. Credit goes to my wife for conversing with him like an adult in all these languages. I don't know why, but we never did any baby talk with him, and based on his teachers' comments he is way ahead of his peers in language/communication skills. My wife started teaching him reading English about 3 months ago. Now he can practically read at 2nd grade level. We don't push him to read, but he loves reading his story books. I hope your book offers couple of more things that we can try to increase my kid's happiness.
When I was a Camp Director I used to construct "lies" over the course of a week that would lead kids to the wrong conclusion.
Just with in the earshot of campers I'd say things to the counselors like "I think Kahn is back on the camp again"
And in the Animal Lodge we had a huge empty tank that said "Kahn: Rare Aquatic Gargantuan Boa Constrictor" with some facts about the fact that they could grow to over 150 feet in length, and they eat mostly bear for food.
I'd drop other "hints" like "You don't have to worry about Bears in the woods, not since Kahn got out..." and if anyone asked I'd just blow off the questions about Kahn, "Oh, nevermind just a camp pet that got out one day"
When the wind would blow through the tall grass the counselors would hurry the kids to an area where the grass was shorter. And we'd say "Camper count" and count that we had everybody, then sigh, "Kahn never ceases to scare the daylights out of me"
Towards the end of the week campers were convinced there was a conspiracy to keep the giant snake a secret. It kept them from wandering out at night, or sneaking off on their own.
Worked far better than any amount of threats of discipline could.
How exciting to sneak out with a buddy at night, looking for Kahn! They'd remember that for a lifetime.
Looks like I'm going to need to have another child to get the most out of this thread, bit costly.