There are many competitors, our IDE will be released as an open-source project in the coming weeks so that you can use it on your own laptop or server.
cool, would be happy to see if there is stuff we can make use of in our own product:)...ours is not an official open source product but the source code is included for end-user modification.
Many competitors but without signing up for either of these services (crud or code) I can say the codebox website is much better designed and is really clean.
Buttons are getting cut off, FONTS and there is a blank about page on crudzilla?
not sure which browser you are using or what your settings are but I have not received any complaints about the site design. The last person who complaint about the site was using an iPhone, hopefully you aren't doing the same:)
Also while site design is important, I should add that our product is not the same as our site.
This looks nice but it's missing one feature that's stopped me from adopting services like this after having tried a couple of them - let me download the VM!
There are I think two fundamental problems with remote IDEs. One is of course offline mode, and I don't think "sync your code later" is a solution unless it also lets you "test your code now". The other is remote resource restrictions that mean you can only use a remote IDE for some of your projects and still have to maintain a complete local environment for everything else.
Being able to download the VM means local hardware for projects that need more hardware, and real offline mode for people that need it. Going open source allows for this but it still leaves all the work of setting up each box which can be a real PITA (cloud9 is very hit-or-miss) and that can probably be monetized especially with the added benefits of remote access for when that is better or necessary.
while native IDEs aren't going away, I think browser IDEs especially for web development are the wave of the future.
Once businesses discover the advantages of having developer access via the browser there will be no turning back. Some developers dislike this notion, but time will tell:)
In the case of web development, there is plenty of natural integration that you get in the browser that is simply not possible with a native tool...for instance the simple ability to integrate with other web components with little effort, in the case of our product we provide a WYSIWYG editor via the tinymce component, that took little effort because it was a web component integration. A browser IDE can integrate with in-browser developer tools such as those on Firefox and chrome.
Then there are the advantages of hassle-free remote access to application assets...this may not be a big deal to a dev who likes git, ssh..etc, but for many developers being able to access and work on their apps simply by loging into another web app is preferred.
Browser IDE products themselves are inherently easier to develop, I know I am happy to be building a web app instead of Java swing components, years ago I attempted to build a native IDE (http://bit.ly/IwZCEL), I am glad I am not doing that today:)
These are just some pluses, there are all sorts of ways that the browser,web and web-application development just fit together.
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[ 4.0 ms ] story [ 50.6 ms ] threadButtons are getting cut off, FONTS and there is a blank about page on crudzilla?
Also while site design is important, I should add that our product is not the same as our site.
There are I think two fundamental problems with remote IDEs. One is of course offline mode, and I don't think "sync your code later" is a solution unless it also lets you "test your code now". The other is remote resource restrictions that mean you can only use a remote IDE for some of your projects and still have to maintain a complete local environment for everything else.
Being able to download the VM means local hardware for projects that need more hardware, and real offline mode for people that need it. Going open source allows for this but it still leaves all the work of setting up each box which can be a real PITA (cloud9 is very hit-or-miss) and that can probably be monetized especially with the added benefits of remote access for when that is better or necessary.
Once businesses discover the advantages of having developer access via the browser there will be no turning back. Some developers dislike this notion, but time will tell:)
btw you can download ours (crudzilla.com)
Then there are the advantages of hassle-free remote access to application assets...this may not be a big deal to a dev who likes git, ssh..etc, but for many developers being able to access and work on their apps simply by loging into another web app is preferred.
Browser IDE products themselves are inherently easier to develop, I know I am happy to be building a web app instead of Java swing components, years ago I attempted to build a native IDE (http://bit.ly/IwZCEL), I am glad I am not doing that today:)
These are just some pluses, there are all sorts of ways that the browser,web and web-application development just fit together.