Please enlighten me as to the point of this article then, because from my POV, it's a list of 'hacking tools' that you can use to be an entry-level 'hacker'.
This notion of being a hacker due to using a tool is preposterous. The only thing the article does is perpetuate the flawed understanding of computer security and hacking for the general public.
"We started with Linux" (that's a subheading, mind you!) — "That’s crucial for hackers, because although the temptation is to focus on their tools, the job is as much art as science" — "If you can get physical access to a network"...
Like, you're just not reading the article. You're just not. The fact that the OP mentions "getting physical" is an obvious counterexample to your criticism and reduction of "it's a list of "hacking tools"'. Can you see the narrative (the forest)?
No one calls Linux "a tool" in the sense you're talking about. The OP is saying, with that subheading, "If you're just some Windows [power?] user, you've got to radically change that" — or even further, "If you don't know that OS X is *nix, to say the least, you've got to radically change that".
I mean, it's The Guardian for Chrissake. What do you expect, a list of dotfiles with rich comments?
I thought it was great. Maybe I haven't heard of these tools before. Reading about them doesn't mean I know how to use them or have a thorough understanding of security, but it's a good place to start googling and learn more.
nmap is a fairly common used tool for more than testing. So is dig netstat sockstat nc tcpdump qmail djbdns pf s(sh|cp) traceroute also read your security and tuning man pages as a great place to start.
I thought this was going to be about bash, vi, SICP, cryptanalysis, emacs, asm, or maybe something about 3d printers, or fpgas, or soldering fine point smd ICs onto home stenciled PCBs.
This isn't about being a hacker at all. It's about doing some entry level penetration testing with a software suite designed for that purpose.
That was also my initial takeaway. To me hacking is about understanding how it all works. Using a tool isn't a problem but the guy that wrote the tool is a hacker, and you're only a hacker if you understand what it is you're doing well enough that you can solve unfamiliar problems that the tool doesn't already cover. Otherwise you are going to get stumped, which translates into getting caught.
To look at it another way: installing wordpress with some plugins doesn't make you a web developer.
Edit: I took this article's bait but I realized afterwards that this was all to ride off the recent Target fiasco.
Hacking meaning is complex. For me it means something ingenious, a way of creating or using a tool in a round about way. It's not even necessarily about computers. But it involves most of the time a "creative use of technology".
Hacking meaning is complex. For me it means something ingenious, a way of creating or using a tool in a round about way. It's not even necessarily about computers. But it involves most of the time creative uses of technology. I mean, an passionate girl or boy can be a hacker, you don't even need a computer: electronic, craft, artists, vintage device, bicycles, motorbikes, food, biology, DNA, politics, sextoys, any activity field can be hacked.
If you use the penetration kit out of the box like you are supposed to do, I don't see any hacking here (even if it allows you to penetrate in a prestigious "open system").
In the opposite, if you hack a bit and can prove that you can open a car door with a computer and a network penetration tool, it start to be interesting.
Hacking is a huge field. Restrain it to computer networks rides is not fair, even if historically, it has been much more used by networks and telecoms people.
I think hackers are also people who create inestimable wealth. People who create a compiler, that will make possible for others to create languages, that will allow others to create tools, etc. are very strange. Why do they do that? Not because their boss ask them for.
A programming language is useless as far as you hadn't create something with it. Creation and hacking are very similar things.
'Eye of the beholder, as always. To my grandmom, I'm an elite weapons-grade hacker because I hit Ctrl-B to bold something in MSWord rather than clicking the button for it.
Totally. For all my real life friends I am beyond comparison when it comes to computers. Reading people's comments around here or on SO makes me think I know nothing...
Interestingly enough that won't work. IRC nicknames are not allowed to start with a number. My alternative nickname from X-Istence is 0x58, and on IRC I go by x58...
Unfortunately, a poorly thought through article. This article seems to only promote FUD regarding information security. I hope the overall goal of creating robust systems is not lost by calling out certain tools. Security through obscurity is not security.
Since there are a number of links to Guardian articles posted here daily, I'd argue that the 'elite HN hacking corps' and Guardian readers are the same thing.
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You're just being unnecessarily deflationist and reductionist. You're missing the article for its words (missing the forest for its trees).
This notion of being a hacker due to using a tool is preposterous. The only thing the article does is perpetuate the flawed understanding of computer security and hacking for the general public.
Like, you're just not reading the article. You're just not. The fact that the OP mentions "getting physical" is an obvious counterexample to your criticism and reduction of "it's a list of "hacking tools"'. Can you see the narrative (the forest)?
No one calls Linux "a tool" in the sense you're talking about. The OP is saying, with that subheading, "If you're just some Windows [power?] user, you've got to radically change that" — or even further, "If you don't know that OS X is *nix, to say the least, you've got to radically change that".
I mean, it's The Guardian for Chrissake. What do you expect, a list of dotfiles with rich comments?
Right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1DFwtR755I
This isn't about being a hacker at all. It's about doing some entry level penetration testing with a software suite designed for that purpose.
To look at it another way: installing wordpress with some plugins doesn't make you a web developer.
Edit: I took this article's bait but I realized afterwards that this was all to ride off the recent Target fiasco.
If you use the penetration kit out of the box like you are supposed to do, I don't see any hacking here (even if it allows you to penetrate in a prestigious "open system").
In the opposite, if you hack a bit and can prove that you can open a car door with a computer and a network penetration tool, it start to be interesting.
Hacking is a huge field. Restrain it to computer networks rides is not fair, even if historically, it has been much more used by networks and telecoms people.
I think hackers are also people who create inestimable wealth. People who create a compiler, that will make possible for others to create languages, that will allow others to create tools, etc. are very strange. Why do they do that? Not because their boss ask them for.
A programming language is useless as far as you hadn't create something with it. Creation and hacking are very similar things.
I also thought the top HN comment would be a moan about the correct meaning of the word hacker!
This is embarrassing to actual infosec specialists and penetration testers.
Step 2: change nick by adding 0x in front of your regular nym
Congrats you're a hacker
Safari doesn't have a great track record.
http://foldoc.org/The+Story+of+Mel,+a+Real+Programmer
http://www.wps.com/J/LGP-21/mel-the-programmer.html
The man didn't even use patch or diff! Now git off my lawn kid!