Excellent. I could see myself using this (especially nowadays that screens are big enough).
Before clicking the link I was afraid this wouid be about "Priority Inbox" or any other way to let Google categorize my email for me, which I don't trust them to do other than the spam filter.
Lately, however, the constant UI changes are driving me into thinking about moving from web-based GMail to some other, more stable alternative for reading email. (Really, I'm even considering adopting a terminal client like mutt. At least I know _that_ I'll be able to keep using exactly the same way 10 years from now.)
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I have the same angst about interface changes. I am so extremely dependent on being effective in gmail. If they ever force me to use one of the new interfaces of Gmail, it will be a new client for me to learn, thus i might as well learn a completely new client - like eg mutt.
> new interfaces of Gmail, it will be a new client for me to learn, thus i might as well learn a completely new client - like eg mutt
That seems sort of silly... Various gmail interface changes have annoyed some people, but they're quite small by comparison with the difference with an email client like mutt with a completely different model, and not just the UI model, but mail delivery, storage, backup, and spam-handling, not to mention the integration of gmail with a vast swath of other software.
Certainly mutt (and all the associated things that go with it) are better-liked by some people, but it most certainly isn't going to be easier to learn than new gmail UI for an existing gmail user. Not even close.
It doesn't give you everything on the same screen but if you can't live without the automated filtering of a tabbed inbox, try the "Quick links" Gmail lab rather than multiple inboxes for fast access to Needs Action / Awating Reply (essentially you can save searches to the stars which appear as a set of links below your categories on the left).
You don't need to enable auto-archive if you learned all the keyboard shortcuts: [ and ] are 'remove from current view and go to next/previous', which removes the email from the inbox if that's where you process mail. ( or { } to explicitly archive from any view)
This is fantastic. I have used the same system for the last 4 years and it is the single most useful productivity "hack" in my life. The only change I use is that my reference emails usually go into Evernote.
This is really great. Thanks for posting. Another necessary gmail tool is "Boomerang" http://www.boomeranggmail.com/ which allows you to control what time certain emails will go out. Great for 2am coding sessions where you want to send an email that will end up in someone's inbox at 8:30am but you know that you won't be awake to send it.
Seconded. I can't count the number of connections that I've rekindled after several months of no reply, just because I had a reminder and a willingness to try again.
This is actually almost exactly my email flow. Multiple inboxes with filters so email gets assigned and put in its place quickly. Instead of stars I use labels though. Anything in my inbox I need to handle right away or mark as todo. Very efficient and keeps the inbox at less than 10 emails most of the time.
Combined with Gmail shortcuts, you can handle emails very quickly in Gmail. These features combined are the main reason why I never give more than a cursory glance at all these slick new email apps since this workflow is so quick and easy for me.
I use the mailbox iPhone app. The killer feature for me is that I can snooze an email. It's close to ideal for me. This ability to show multiple inboxes on the desktop might be an interesting tool to add visibility to something on another list.
Can't beat Mailbox. Wish they had a desktop app too. The snoozing thing is essential for moving stuff out of my headspace until I can think about it. I wish everything in life had a swipe to snooze.
I enjoy using Mailbox to the point that I rarely use desktop Gmail anymore -- a keyboard on my iPad helps. It's also easy enough to implement the filtered inbox views mentioned in the article for Mailbox folders, allowing the same sorting functionality on mobile (unlike the star-based solution).
I've found that I've done pretty well with the default organization of the Primary/Social/Promotion etc. tabs. Since you can mark any tab as completely read at once, I just keep my todos unread in my Primary tab. A simple search for is:unread displays what I need to work on.
cool stuff. to be honest i only "read" a fraction of my email.
most of the automatic stuff gets filtered into different "newsletter" labels and i never mark them read - would also feel weird doing it because i actually never read them
Very cool workflow. I also use Gmail extensively as my primary task management platform and have a simple workflow that works great for my needs. I wrote about it here: http://www.manuelflara.com/ultimate-todo-list-inbox/
Very nice hack, Andreas. I've set it up per your instructions and I will commit to using it.
One thing... the multiple inbox feature doesn't appear to work on the iPad Gmail app. My inbox is simply empty... and I don't see the additional inboxes anywhere. Just an FYI for those who go this route.
Seems Gmail tabs don't work with multiple inboxes, but I've set it up. I guess I'll have to be more liberal with unsubscribing without emails being sorted into tabs.
Being obsessed with productivity I would say sanebox.com is a must have and coupled with the boxer iOS app it truly is the best email solution I have used in the past 20 years. I hate to pay for service in an arena where most is free but the cost of sanebox is worth it to me. I don't work or know anyone at the company so this is truly a not bias recommend. I have zero inbox and a killer reminder capability built in. Btw - sanebox did what online service companies "should" do, same as 37signals, they offer a service worth paying for, and don't need to get acquired to make money, only sell their service for a price people are willing to pay - seems like a solid biz plan, eh?
As the joker says ' if you are good at something don't offer it free', and I completely agree to that as a business, but as a customer ( and definitely someone who is not early adopter) I would find paying for a service like this a little over the top, and there could be many like me. So the target audience is limited right now for SaneBox unless it shifts to the enterprise segment, that is an area where it can make a bigger dent.
I remember a time (2005) when GMail was hailed as the future of easy to use email. However, I must say, this thing has grown into the most convoluted thing I've ever worked with and I'm not really sure why this is...
Amazing :-)
I had a simple question unrelated to post - how is it that there is no ad shown to you on gmail ? Are you using any extension to remove ads ?
looks like my email flow except i'm using a fat client and no gmail. (thunderbird in my case).
i never understood people not doing "zero" inbox and not sorting mail automatically. they're always complaining. email never took me much time and i get about 1K a day. Obviously I don't read 1k a day. Nobody does.
in my case starring = queued for later replies, probably evening or next morning = todo list, or whatever you wanna call it.
inbox = disruptive messages, rare.
some mailboxes = phone alert on new mail (super important stuff, rare)
other mailboxes = sorted archives, stuff i may peruse when it comes in if ive some time/interest.
personally i can't really use desktop clients anymore. it's super weird if you need to "quickly" check your email somewhere else and all your setup is different.
I only access my email on trusted devices. All of my trusted devices have IMAP clients on them. I can see that webmail is useful for people who are willing to access their email on untrusted devices (a friends computer etc) which wont have email clients pre-configured, but I'm not one of those people.
I don't understand why people are constantly acting like they are required to read email. I currently have over nine-thousand unread emails in my gmail. And look! Nothing bad happened! That's getting things done. Things that aren't email.
Some of us are wired to bring that little red number to 0. Latent OCD, perhaps? It just makes me itch inside when it looks like someone might be waiting for a response. I need to learn to live with it.
On the other hand, many others have been wired to think that number should be zero.
If someone needs me urgently for something, they can ping me in our company hipchat or use any of a number of methods to contact me by voice. Email is lowest priority.
I do get through my emails, but it's not something I allow to interrupt my day repeatedly.
Since I switched over to this, the self-inflicted stress over keeping my inbox empty has gone away. ANd I still get the work done that I need to get done.
I don't really register to the "you have to read all the e-mails" camp but when I send someone an e-mail expecting a reply I at least would like to be semi-sure they've had a chance to see it and it not just drowned in a mountain of unread ones requiring me to seek alternative contact methods.
Note: I don't expect e-mail to be replied to straight away just when there it time, if it's urgent I will most of the time use alternative contact methods.
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[ 2.2 ms ] story [ 130 ms ] threadBefore clicking the link I was afraid this wouid be about "Priority Inbox" or any other way to let Google categorize my email for me, which I don't trust them to do other than the spam filter.
Lately, however, the constant UI changes are driving me into thinking about moving from web-based GMail to some other, more stable alternative for reading email. (Really, I'm even considering adopting a terminal client like mutt. At least I know _that_ I'll be able to keep using exactly the same way 10 years from now.)
That seems sort of silly... Various gmail interface changes have annoyed some people, but they're quite small by comparison with the difference with an email client like mutt with a completely different model, and not just the UI model, but mail delivery, storage, backup, and spam-handling, not to mention the integration of gmail with a vast swath of other software.
Certainly mutt (and all the associated things that go with it) are better-liked by some people, but it most certainly isn't going to be easier to learn than new gmail UI for an existing gmail user. Not even close.
The step-by-step eventually mentions this, but until you get to that point you won't see any sign of the multiple inbox UI.
Absolutely true. I mention at some point. Should i pull this earlier to make it more clear?
It also took me a little longer than it probably should have to figure out where "Choose right side layout" was configured.
Thanks for writing up your technique!
One other hack idea:
If you use your android phone to send reminders ('Note to Self' voice command)
You can set up a filter for mails with Subject:"Note to self" Apply label 'yellow-bang' Skip: inbox
Kudos for such a useful and comprehensive post!
What are reference email?
I added an additional note to the explanations. hope it helps
Combined with Gmail shortcuts, you can handle emails very quickly in Gmail. These features combined are the main reason why I never give more than a cursory glance at all these slick new email apps since this workflow is so quick and easy for me.
One thing... the multiple inbox feature doesn't appear to work on the iPad Gmail app. My inbox is simply empty... and I don't see the additional inboxes anywhere. Just an FYI for those who go this route.
Just as an editing comment: You'll want to change "loose" to "lose" in the article. It's an easy one to mess up!
i never understood people not doing "zero" inbox and not sorting mail automatically. they're always complaining. email never took me much time and i get about 1K a day. Obviously I don't read 1k a day. Nobody does.
in my case starring = queued for later replies, probably evening or next morning = todo list, or whatever you wanna call it.
inbox = disruptive messages, rare.
some mailboxes = phone alert on new mail (super important stuff, rare)
other mailboxes = sorted archives, stuff i may peruse when it comes in if ive some time/interest.
works fine.
personally i can't really use desktop clients anymore. it's super weird if you need to "quickly" check your email somewhere else and all your setup is different.
If someone needs me urgently for something, they can ping me in our company hipchat or use any of a number of methods to contact me by voice. Email is lowest priority.
I do get through my emails, but it's not something I allow to interrupt my day repeatedly.
Since I switched over to this, the self-inflicted stress over keeping my inbox empty has gone away. ANd I still get the work done that I need to get done.
Note: I don't expect e-mail to be replied to straight away just when there it time, if it's urgent I will most of the time use alternative contact methods.