I wish there were good companies in India using Python. Most companies claiming to do so just tack on Python to a long list of languages they use and don't really use it significantly. I know great programmers who would kill for a decent paying job in Django/Python.
The "do crap work outsourced to India" idea is what the Indian software industry is built around. Lots of java/dotnet.Some Ruby on Rails, thanks to the marketing of RoR. Very little python. :(
We are 100% Indian product company - the product is Indian and built for the Indian market (although we have customers in 80 countries).
I would classify us as a "very good company" and we use python for our scripting needs though our major work is in C/C++. Does that make you feel a bit better? :-)
"I would classify us as a "very good company" and we use python for our scripting needs though our major work is in C/C++. Does that make you feel a bit better? :-)"
Which company is this anyway? What is your product?
Interesting, I thought Tally was written in C (C++? I knew someone who worked on Tally long ago . I have the impression it was primarily C or C++ ). You did say scripting - Do you use much Python? What's the ratio of Python to C++/C?
Tally is entirely written in C/C++/assembly + TDL (which is a DSL).
However, to manage development, we have our own in-house SCM tool (which uses SVN as a backend). This tool is written entirely in python. Additionally, some small build utilities etc are also written in python. That's what I meant by "scripting needs".
Apologies for the slow replies btw - I haven't been checking HN regularly.
"Tally is entirely written in C/C++/assembly + TDL (which is a DSL)."
Interesting! I once knew some people who wanted to create a "startup" to compete aginst Tally. It didn't go anywhere, but I thought it was an interesting idea.
> I once knew some people who wanted to create a "startup" to compete aginst Tally.
Heh - every year we have dozens of Tally clones that come up. In fact, I know at least two people working in Tally who had, at some point in the past, developed products that were Tally competitors/clones.
While not as much as in the west, there are plently of companies that use Python in India and not all of them "do crap work outsourced to India". Here's a list
A local user group in Bangalore is organising the first Indian PyCon right now and we've talked to many companies (some Indian and some not) about sponsorships because they use Python.
"there are plently of companies that use Python in India and not all of them "do crap work outsourced to India"."
Interesting. I see Tavant (outsourcing company), servelots (looking for people with java sql tomcat -hardly indicates a Python focus), moog (nothing very python specific and seems to follow the "offshore India dev centre" model - high probability of dealing with crap work the folks in the West don't want to do), Trellisys (outsourcing) , DIQ (I can't even make out what they do. Seems like a company run by a bunch of jokers, see their blog!).
Can you point out any companies working primarily with python don't do outsourcing, and have sophisticated python based products in that list? If you can't doesn't that just prove my point?
but there are some countries/regions still missing from the "Regions" drop-down list which, being a required field, might prevent people from these countries filling out the form.
As a federal IT consultant, I have built a number of utilities for <a government entity> that either use Python directly or leverage bits of Python code in order to make another product work. One interesting bit in particular, I whipped up a 13 line Python script to monitor each side of a load balanced cluster for uptime, properly shutting down the relevant Apache instance of a side if its Weblogic portal instance was not responding, and redirecting traffic to the other side. This need was present as there was no facility in either the multi-thousand dollar Cisco Content Service Switches fronting the servers, nor the multi-million dollar AquaLogic portal behind them.
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The "do crap work outsourced to India" idea is what the Indian software industry is built around. Lots of java/dotnet.Some Ruby on Rails, thanks to the marketing of RoR. Very little python. :(
Hell, even "Indian Python" sounds cool.
"One of the unique features of the Rock pythons of India is that they can raise their body temperature above the ambient level, through muscular contractions." http://www.iloveindia.com/wildlife/indian-snakes/python.html
I would classify us as a "very good company" and we use python for our scripting needs though our major work is in C/C++. Does that make you feel a bit better? :-)
Which company is this anyway? What is your product?
However, to manage development, we have our own in-house SCM tool (which uses SVN as a backend). This tool is written entirely in python. Additionally, some small build utilities etc are also written in python. That's what I meant by "scripting needs".
Apologies for the slow replies btw - I haven't been checking HN regularly.
Interesting! I once knew some people who wanted to create a "startup" to compete aginst Tally. It didn't go anywhere, but I thought it was an interesting idea.
"Apologies for the slow replies btw "
No worries.
Heh - every year we have dozens of Tally clones that come up. In fact, I know at least two people working in Tally who had, at some point in the past, developed products that were Tally competitors/clones.
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndi...
A local user group in Bangalore is organising the first Indian PyCon right now and we've talked to many companies (some Indian and some not) about sponsorships because they use Python.
"there are plently of companies that use Python in India and not all of them "do crap work outsourced to India"."
Interesting. I see Tavant (outsourcing company), servelots (looking for people with java sql tomcat -hardly indicates a Python focus), moog (nothing very python specific and seems to follow the "offshore India dev centre" model - high probability of dealing with crap work the folks in the West don't want to do), Trellisys (outsourcing) , DIQ (I can't even make out what they do. Seems like a company run by a bunch of jokers, see their blog!).
Can you point out any companies working primarily with python don't do outsourcing, and have sophisticated python based products in that list? If you can't doesn't that just prove my point?
Update: See the front page of PyCon.org: http://us.pycon.org/2010/
but there are some countries/regions still missing from the "Regions" drop-down list which, being a required field, might prevent people from these countries filling out the form.
e.g., Ireland, Greece, ...
As a federal IT consultant, I have built a number of utilities for <a government entity> that either use Python directly or leverage bits of Python code in order to make another product work. One interesting bit in particular, I whipped up a 13 line Python script to monitor each side of a load balanced cluster for uptime, properly shutting down the relevant Apache instance of a side if its Weblogic portal instance was not responding, and redirecting traffic to the other side. This need was present as there was no facility in either the multi-thousand dollar Cisco Content Service Switches fronting the servers, nor the multi-million dollar AquaLogic portal behind them.