Looks fantastic! There is also an API and documentation available at http://api.tfl.gov.uk.
Disclaimer: I'm part of the combined TfL and BAE Systems Applied Intelligence team (née Detica) that did the build and architecture, along with the great folks at We Are Experience and Attenda.
Is there an API for Oyster balances yet? (or planned?) I ask as someone slightly concerned by popular apps which seem to rely on you giving some third party your TFL login for them to scrape it for you...
Very happy to see that TFL have done as much as they have though. Lovely to see :)
Minor quibble - the "here" of "Request one here" is black text on a dark blue background and therefore invisible to me.
Another minor quibble - print the rules for passwords before people submit an invalid one. And if you do force a resubmit, persist all the form settings or you're going to annoy me^Wpeople.
It's been a long standing problem, it would definitely improve my life a significant amount! See also : suspending the access after 3 or however many incorrect attempts, but not telling you that's what's happened.
Looks good, website is more responsive than the existing one. Quick wins I've noticed on my 2min browsing:
1 Auto fill on the "to" and "from" boxes.
2 website looks clean and responsive
3 The future feature "avoid zone 1". Plenty of people are limited with the travel card deals and will enjoy this feature
4 "View on map", thank God I really didn't like having to download a pdf every time I wanted to check a trip
I have to agree on that, however I moved in the opposite way.
Back in Sweden I just found it easier to download the route maps of the cities and just manually follow the routes to determine the best place to get on/off or switch.
Also these travel planners that are available for Sweden (or at least 2000's) didn't really work well when you want to travel between cities.
9292ov.nl helped me out tons when I moved here, it still do, but mainly for trains these days. In the cities I just use the bicycle, as is customary around here :)
It really depends on where you are in Sweden. Different regions have different public transport providers.
Never thought I would defend Västtrafik(public transport in south west Sweden) but here I go.
Their webpage http://www.vasttrafik.se/ is quite usable. It finds good routes and you can fiddle around with different parameters such as times for changes etc. You can say that you are willing to walk or take a bike part of the way as well. Overall pretty good as long as you are on a computer.
On a phone the default app is not so good. Instead use ResOplanerare which has a very minimal and slick interface.
Perhaps the English link of the Dutch good-example site provides a better understanding: http://9292.nl/en# The Sweden site looks like it was made in 1990...
Still wishing they'll completely open up the data and end the 9292 monopoly. Recently a lot of Dutch public transport data has been opened up but you kinda need it all to make an effective 9292-alternative.
As a contractor, I was involved in development for the trip planner widget for Skånetrafiken. Markup was constructed from MSPainted jpeg blueprints. Where the designs came from, I have no idea.
Does anyone know where it gets data on walking routes?
There is a train station near where I used to live. Google Maps correctly identifies it as being 11 mins' away by foot. The TfL site thinks it's 23 mins away by bus, so never includes it in any suggested routes, instead showing my multiple-leg journeys by bus and tube.
Is there a place to report errors or 'I found a faster route'?
Can you send me a link to the journey planner results? There is no specific way to contribute improvements to the results, best way for now would be to leave feedback through the form in the title bar of the new website.
Edit: You also might get some mileage out of setting your walking speed to "Fast" and selecting "Routes with fewest changes"
Choosing 'fast walking' and 'routes with fewest changes' sort of worked, but it still shows a walking route which doesn't use the pedestrian-only bridge:
Even with the fast walking, they seem to have employed a slow walker to measure this. My walk to work I can do in 35 mins, which isn't at a terribly fast pace, but even TfL's fastest option reports it as taking 44mins http://www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey/results?IsAsync=true&Jp...
This is great, much better than what my city offers: http://www.mbta.com/ I really don't know how a company literally focused on their customers being "mobile" can't have a decent mobile website.
1. "Welcome to our new site" wastes space.
2. The logo and menu bar wastes space.
3. "Tube, DLR and London Overground" wastes space.
Then I click on "Special service" for London Overground (the black text on dark orange is hard to read btw) and ... I get an entirely wasted page that tells me nothing about the Overground because the crap at the top has pushed the actual information I'm after under the fold.
Also, the "add any further feedback" text box has issues under Mobile Safari once you try and go back to edit text - I can't add any more text once I've deleted anything. If I close and open the feedback pane, I can type again. It's a bit confusing!
Minor quibbles really but I'd say it was only half responsive, not fully there.
My main use case is checking what time the last tube home is, which I can't yet find.
On the old site, I could find the last tube out from Location to Middle Stop, but then get to Middle Stop and realise that the line from Middle Stop to Home is now shut. Hope they fix that now.
Surprised more people haven't noticed there's an SVG tube map right there! Bonus: it's tagged with the station Naptan codes and TransXChange route ids that are the API's currency.
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(I'm part of we are experience)
Very happy to see that TFL have done as much as they have though. Lovely to see :)
Edit: ha, beat me to it alex :)
Another minor quibble - print the rules for passwords before people submit an invalid one. And if you do force a resubmit, persist all the form settings or you're going to annoy me^Wpeople.
Having a fully responsive version means that users will navigate the site on mobile devices where data networks are not always good.
Do you intend to reduce the JavaScript payload?
http://blog.tfl.gov.uk/2014/03/12/why-a-new-website-but-no-a...
To give an international perspective, this is what I was used to as a Dutch person:
http://9292.nl/
I didn't realise how great that website was until I moved to Sweden to study. This is what is available here:
http://www.reseplaneraren.skanetrafiken.se/querypage_adv.asp...
I've noticed that I used public transport on long distances a lot more when the website was a lot easier to use.
Back in Sweden I just found it easier to download the route maps of the cities and just manually follow the routes to determine the best place to get on/off or switch.
Also these travel planners that are available for Sweden (or at least 2000's) didn't really work well when you want to travel between cities.
9292ov.nl helped me out tons when I moved here, it still do, but mainly for trains these days. In the cities I just use the bicycle, as is customary around here :)
Never thought I would defend Västtrafik(public transport in south west Sweden) but here I go.
Their webpage http://www.vasttrafik.se/ is quite usable. It finds good routes and you can fiddle around with different parameters such as times for changes etc. You can say that you are willing to walk or take a bike part of the way as well. Overall pretty good as long as you are on a computer.
On a phone the default app is not so good. Instead use ResOplanerare which has a very minimal and slick interface.
I know that they tried to recruit a 'creative pascal developer' about a year ago :)
Does anyone know where it gets data on walking routes?
There is a train station near where I used to live. Google Maps correctly identifies it as being 11 mins' away by foot. The TfL site thinks it's 23 mins away by bus, so never includes it in any suggested routes, instead showing my multiple-leg journeys by bus and tube.
Is there a place to report errors or 'I found a faster route'?
Edit: You also might get some mileage out of setting your walking speed to "Fast" and selecting "Routes with fewest changes"
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey/results?IsAsync=true&Jp...
off topic: this is the FIRST site I've seen that used Samsung mobile image to show the responsiveness of the page instead of an iPhone or an iPad
edit: the favicon is not right, when the page is not in focus, you'll see pieces of the white-background left (i have OCD)
http://i.imgur.com/z0LAmnJ.png
1. "Welcome to our new site" wastes space. 2. The logo and menu bar wastes space. 3. "Tube, DLR and London Overground" wastes space.
Then I click on "Special service" for London Overground (the black text on dark orange is hard to read btw) and ... I get an entirely wasted page that tells me nothing about the Overground because the crap at the top has pushed the actual information I'm after under the fold.
cf http://bit.ly/1gJ64ri
Also, the "add any further feedback" text box has issues under Mobile Safari once you try and go back to edit text - I can't add any more text once I've deleted anything. If I close and open the feedback pane, I can type again. It's a bit confusing!
Minor quibbles really but I'd say it was only half responsive, not fully there.
On the old site, I could find the last tube out from Location to Middle Stop, but then get to Middle Stop and realise that the line from Middle Stop to Home is now shut. Hope they fix that now.
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Cannot do a search. The menu items are on top of it.
Cannot close the information box about cookies.
Overall, a very good initiative.